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Or the individual could have made all of that up, nothing here that validates the story at all, could just be a smart kid trolling vice. I mean really no citat

Or the individual could have made all of that up, nothing here that validates the story at all, could just be a smart kid trolling vice. I mean really no citations except for what the individual provided them and some half-baked analysis that words from the kaspersky report were in what they received.

mtgx 8y ago
> “Hacking back should be legalized so Kaspersky could of done this themselves,” the hacker wrote in their message on the ZooPark server. That line right there sounds like very much the propaganda the U.S. government has been pushing lately to convince people to support "hacking back." I've only heard government members promote this. I guess this could be an operation where they try to make "hacking back" into something "heroes" (vigilantes) do.
- yorwba 8y ago
  If it's only government agencies that support hacking back, they sure are playing the long game. E.g. the hack of the Gamma Group [1] was also purportedly carried out by a vigilante, who later published guides [2], [3] that also use the "hacking back" language. What are the odds?! [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/leaked-docs-show-spyware-used-to-snoop-on-us-computers/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/leaked-docs-show... [2] http://pastebin.com/raw/cRYvK4jb http://pastebin.com/raw/cRYvK4jb [3] http://shadow.systems/phineas-fishers-hackback-ii/ http://shadow.systems/phineas-fishers-hackback-ii/ [4] HN discussion of [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11512845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11512845
  - chatmasta 8y ago
    I had this same thought when I read “hacking back” in the article. I just dismissed it as conspiratorial thinking, but now I see another article with the same phrase and premise... hmmmmm. It is something I would do if I were trying to get legislation passed. But it could be easily explained by the fact the government uses the phrase constantly in the media. It’s not necessarily unexpected that two hackers would use them use the phrase when discussing the merits of, well, “hacking back.”
zoopark 8y ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20180508063705/http://5.61.27.157/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180508063705/http://5.61.27.15... Read kaspersky's report and compare the ip addresses. The hacker defaced the command and control server as proof.

mtgx 8y ago

> “Hacking back should be legalized so Kaspersky could of done this themselves,” the hacker wrote in their message on the ZooPark server. That line right there sounds like very much the propaganda the U.S. government has been pushing lately to convince people to support "hacking back." I've only heard government members promote this. I guess this could be an operation where they try to make "hacking back" into something "heroes" (vigilantes) do.

yorwba 8y ago
If it's only government agencies that support hacking back, they sure are playing the long game. E.g. the hack of the Gamma Group [1] was also purportedly carried out by a vigilante, who later published guides [2], [3] that also use the "hacking back" language. What are the odds?! [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/leaked-docs-show-spyware-used-to-snoop-on-us-computers/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/leaked-docs-show... [2] http://pastebin.com/raw/cRYvK4jb http://pastebin.com/raw/cRYvK4jb [3] http://shadow.systems/phineas-fishers-hackback-ii/ http://shadow.systems/phineas-fishers-hackback-ii/ [4] HN discussion of [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11512845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11512845
- chatmasta 8y ago
  I had this same thought when I read “hacking back” in the article. I just dismissed it as conspiratorial thinking, but now I see another article with the same phrase and premise... hmmmmm. It is something I would do if I were trying to get legislation passed. But it could be easily explained by the fact the government uses the phrase constantly in the media. It’s not necessarily unexpected that two hackers would use them use the phrase when discussing the merits of, well, “hacking back.”

zoopark 8y ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20180508063705/http://5.61.27.157/ https://web.archive.org/web/20180508063705/http://5.61.27.15... Read kaspersky's report and compare the ip addresses. The hacker defaced the command and control server as proof.