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I kept waiting for this article to mention Julian Jaynes' hypothesis on the origin of consciousness but it never did. It's super fascinating though! Essentiall

by jtolds 8y ago

I kept waiting for this article to mention Julian Jaynes' hypothesis on the origin of consciousness but it never did. It's super fascinating though! Essentially, ancient history all the way up to Greece had this feature that people heard voices all the time and it never seemed unusual to anyone. His hypothesis is that maybe written history started before the evolution of what we now call consciousness and we witnessed it in written history. http://www.julianjaynes.org/julian-jaynes-theory-overview.php http://www.julianjaynes.org/julian-jaynes-theory-overview.ph... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)#The_Origin_of_Consciousness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)#The_...

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mirimir 8y ago
Right. Stephenson's Snow Crash riffs on that.
- jpttsn 8y ago
  As does Westworld.
Fnoord 8y ago
> His hypothesis is that maybe written history started before the evolution of what we now call consciousness and we witnessed it in written history. That seems to fit with The Pharmacratic Inquisition from 2007: "The Pharmacratic Inquisition is a provocative film from Gnostic Media that makes the argument that virtually all of the mythology, symbolism, and story of Jesus and related Christian traditions relate to two basic subjects: astrology and shamanism. For those unfamiliar with the evidence in support of this claim, this film can be truly eye opening and revolutionary." [1] As well as The Holy Mushroom: Evidence of Mushrooms in Judeo-Christianity from 2008: "A critical re-evaluation of the schism between John M. Allegro and R. Gordon Wasson over the theory on the entheogenic origins of Christianity presented in The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" [2] [1] https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-pharmacratic-inquisition/ https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-pharmacratic-inquisition/ [2] https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-holy-mushroom-evidence-of-mushrooms-in-judeo-christianity/ https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-holy-mushroom-evidence-of-m...
hsljekskfh 8y ago
wow, this is fascinating. i totally believe that ancient people had internal voices that were real-sounding enough that we’d consider them hallucinations. i don’t fully understand what this has to do with consciousness though. isn’t someone conscious if they are subject to hallucinations?

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mirimir 8y ago

Right. Stephenson's Snow Crash riffs on that.

jpttsn 8y ago
As does Westworld.

Fnoord 8y ago

> His hypothesis is that maybe written history started before the evolution of what we now call consciousness and we witnessed it in written history. That seems to fit with The Pharmacratic Inquisition from 2007: "The Pharmacratic Inquisition is a provocative film from Gnostic Media that makes the argument that virtually all of the mythology, symbolism, and story of Jesus and related Christian traditions relate to two basic subjects: astrology and shamanism. For those unfamiliar with the evidence in support of this claim, this film can be truly eye opening and revolutionary." [1] As well as The Holy Mushroom: Evidence of Mushrooms in Judeo-Christianity from 2008: "A critical re-evaluation of the schism between John M. Allegro and R. Gordon Wasson over the theory on the entheogenic origins of Christianity presented in The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross" [2] [1] https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-pharmacratic-inquisition/ https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-pharmacratic-inquisition/ [2] https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-holy-mushroom-evidence-of-mushrooms-in-judeo-christianity/ https://www.gnosticmedia.com/the-holy-mushroom-evidence-of-m...

hsljekskfh 8y ago

wow, this is fascinating. i totally believe that ancient people had internal voices that were real-sounding enough that we’d consider them hallucinations. i don’t fully understand what this has to do with consciousness though. isn’t someone conscious if they are subject to hallucinations?