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I feel like it needs to be stated that not all of us engineers have the same brutalistic taste in design.

TeMPOraL 8y ago
It's not about brutalism. It's like that "make it, make it good, make it fast" adage for optimization, for design it should be - "make it, make it good (for the job it's supposed to do), then make it pretty". Alas, I see the trend is to start with "make it pretty" and then often not even continue to "make it" part.
- rdiddly 8y ago
  "Make it" without "make it pretty" leads to things that are raw and unadorned; French for raw is brut; the design school-of-thought based on rawness (no design is still a design) is called brutalism; you just described it perfectly; thank you and good night.
  - TeMPOraL 8y ago
    Hm. Fair enough. I guess I still had in mind the recent "brutalism on web" articles that showed stuff which really had nothing to do with actual brutalism-the-architectural-style. Anyway, I was only arguing priorities.
    - rdiddly 8y ago
      Yeah getting it to work and do something seems to be surprisingly low on the priority list for some people!
- Bluestrike2 8y ago
  I don't think there's anything wrong, per se, with the styling as-is on the site. It's clean and it works. That said, a few typographic tweaks (increased font size and spacing between items, introduction of a scale and vertical rhythm, etc.) could improve readability a bit without introducing unnecessary clutter or impacting performance. That's especially true with a monospace typeface. In any case, there shouldn't be a dichotomy between "make it pretty" (however you want to define "pretty" for a project) and "make it good." If a designer is creating that dichotomy, they're doing something drastically wrong. That's true for any project, IMO. I like the site and the idea of it, so I took ~15-20 minutes and threw together a simple user style for my own use that keeps to the site's overall aesthetic while adjusting for readability a bit.[0] As the screenshot shows, the changes are mostly just typography tweaks with the biggest change being a dark design (though that's mainly just personal preference). I'd still check the site without the changes, but I do think they help a bit. 0. https://gist.github.com/bluestrike2/59ffb7796a8d48575c28ceb1383e8603 https://gist.github.com/bluestrike2/59ffb7796a8d48575c28ceb1...

It's not about brutalism. It's like that "make it, make it good, make it fast" adage for optimization, for design it should be - "make it, make it good (for the job it's supposed to do), then make it pretty". Alas, I see the trend is to start with "make it pretty" and then often not even continue to "make it" part.

rdiddly 8y ago
"Make it" without "make it pretty" leads to things that are raw and unadorned; French for raw is brut; the design school-of-thought based on rawness (no design is still a design) is called brutalism; you just described it perfectly; thank you and good night.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  Hm. Fair enough. I guess I still had in mind the recent "brutalism on web" articles that showed stuff which really had nothing to do with actual brutalism-the-architectural-style. Anyway, I was only arguing priorities.
  - rdiddly 8y ago
    Yeah getting it to work and do something seems to be surprisingly low on the priority list for some people!
Bluestrike2 8y ago
I don't think there's anything wrong, per se, with the styling as-is on the site. It's clean and it works. That said, a few typographic tweaks (increased font size and spacing between items, introduction of a scale and vertical rhythm, etc.) could improve readability a bit without introducing unnecessary clutter or impacting performance. That's especially true with a monospace typeface. In any case, there shouldn't be a dichotomy between "make it pretty" (however you want to define "pretty" for a project) and "make it good." If a designer is creating that dichotomy, they're doing something drastically wrong. That's true for any project, IMO. I like the site and the idea of it, so I took ~15-20 minutes and threw together a simple user style for my own use that keeps to the site's overall aesthetic while adjusting for readability a bit.[0] As the screenshot shows, the changes are mostly just typography tweaks with the biggest change being a dark design (though that's mainly just personal preference). I'd still check the site without the changes, but I do think they help a bit. 0. https://gist.github.com/bluestrike2/59ffb7796a8d48575c28ceb1383e8603 https://gist.github.com/bluestrike2/59ffb7796a8d48575c28ceb1...