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I think replacing the proprietary magsafe plug with standard USB-C is a good idea, but not if the implementation is failure-prone. Tangentially related, I wonde

by Zak 9y ago

I think replacing the proprietary magsafe plug with standard USB-C is a good idea, but not if the implementation is failure-prone. Tangentially related, I wonder why they haven't replaced the proprietary plug on their phones and tablets with USB-C.

no1youknowz 9y ago
I have to agree with jwr on this one. Replacing the magsafe was not a good idea. I've had my MBPr for 5 years now. I can't even count the number of times I didn't need to think about it being connected. As a dedicated notebook user for 14 years now. The previous MBPr was the sweet spot. I'm holding onto my current macbook and refuse to upgrade. I hope some sanity returns to Apple and soon.
- dismal2 9y ago
  I think the chances of MagSafe coming back are slim. I’m debating getting the last updated 15 with the old style keyboard and MagSafe to hold me over for a while...
itchyouch 9y ago
The lightning connector licensing revenue they get from 3rd parties for being "Made for iPhone/iPad/iPod" etc
jwr 9y ago
Why do you think it's a good idea? My Magsafe has been yanked out at least hundreds of times. I think it is a fantastic solution and I really do not understand what is "better" about the USB-C connector?
- tolien 9y ago
  There's no real reason that Apple couldn't have had USB-C and some sort of magnetic detachment, like MagSafe - a bunch of third parties sell cables that do exactly that [1]. 1: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/7/12/15960594/magc-vinpok-bolt-s-magsafe-magnetic-charging-usb-c-macbook-pro https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/7/12/15960594/m...
  - happertiger 9y ago
    This is the real point. It was removed and in no way did it need to be. I miss it. The new mbp is no bueno.
- DRW_ 9y ago
  Because it's a standard. You're no longer required to spend a lot of money on Apple's proprietary chargers, anyone can make a good charger. And you can get magsafe-like USB-C chargers. I don't see why, given that option, you'd choose to limit your options to only being able to buy a legitimate charger from Apple, and that charger only being useful for that one device.
  - jwr 9y ago
    I heard that argument and I don't buy it. First, "it's a standard" ignores reality: there are very few devices out there that implement the standard correctly. Second, I don't buy chargers every day. Third, even if I wanted to buy a charger, I would definitely want to spend the money on Apple's "proprietary" chargers, because they are safer and better than the cheap ones (see http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and-why-you.html http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and... or http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and-why-you.html http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and... for examples). I like Magsafe, I've been very happy with it, and I think it is silly of Apple to abandon it for no good reason.
- cerberusss 9y ago
  If it has been hacked out so much, isn't that a sign that the power cable is in the way? I mean, I place my laptop it's power cord such that nobody can trip on it.

by Zak 9y ago

no1youknowz 9y ago

I have to agree with jwr on this one. Replacing the magsafe was not a good idea. I've had my MBPr for 5 years now. I can't even count the number of times I didn't need to think about it being connected. As a dedicated notebook user for 14 years now. The previous MBPr was the sweet spot. I'm holding onto my current macbook and refuse to upgrade. I hope some sanity returns to Apple and soon.

dismal2 9y ago
I think the chances of MagSafe coming back are slim. I’m debating getting the last updated 15 with the old style keyboard and MagSafe to hold me over for a while...

itchyouch 9y ago

The lightning connector licensing revenue they get from 3rd parties for being "Made for iPhone/iPad/iPod" etc

jwr 9y ago

Why do you think it's a good idea? My Magsafe has been yanked out at least hundreds of times. I think it is a fantastic solution and I really do not understand what is "better" about the USB-C connector?

tolien 9y ago
There's no real reason that Apple couldn't have had USB-C and some sort of magnetic detachment, like MagSafe - a bunch of third parties sell cables that do exactly that [1]. 1: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/7/12/15960594/magc-vinpok-bolt-s-magsafe-magnetic-charging-usb-c-macbook-pro https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/7/12/15960594/m...
- happertiger 9y ago
  This is the real point. It was removed and in no way did it need to be. I miss it. The new mbp is no bueno.
DRW_ 9y ago
Because it's a standard. You're no longer required to spend a lot of money on Apple's proprietary chargers, anyone can make a good charger. And you can get magsafe-like USB-C chargers. I don't see why, given that option, you'd choose to limit your options to only being able to buy a legitimate charger from Apple, and that charger only being useful for that one device.
- jwr 9y ago
  I heard that argument and I don't buy it. First, "it's a standard" ignores reality: there are very few devices out there that implement the standard correctly. Second, I don't buy chargers every day. Third, even if I wanted to buy a charger, I would definitely want to spend the money on Apple's "proprietary" chargers, because they are safer and better than the cheap ones (see http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and-why-you.html http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and... or http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and-why-you.html http://www.righto.com/2012/03/inside-cheap-phone-charger-and... for examples). I like Magsafe, I've been very happy with it, and I think it is silly of Apple to abandon it for no good reason.
cerberusss 9y ago
If it has been hacked out so much, isn't that a sign that the power cable is in the way? I mean, I place my laptop it's power cord such that nobody can trip on it.