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Isn't that always the parroted "solution"? The current free market situation has created monopolies in many areas. How would you propose that "freer markets" w

Isn't that always the parroted "solution"? The current free market situation has created monopolies in many areas. How would you propose that "freer markets" would solve this? What we are seeing now is that people literally have to build their own non-profit mesh networks (as in NYC), just to get around the monopolies. If there was actual competition, that would have been necessary.

ttoinou 8y ago
The current free market situation has created monopolies in many areas Such as ?
- KozmoNau7 8y ago
  Countless cities and towns where there is only one ISP, or a duopoly in cahoots to keep prices high and service low, and freezing competitors such as Google Fiber out of the market. This isn't exactly new information, if you haven't noticed the problem by now, you must have been living under a rock. There are hundreds of credible reports and articles about this problem.
  - ttoinou 8y ago
    More deregulation would provide the threat of having more competition later, so it would be a factor of development. There are others factors at play too of course, and net neutrality doesn't seem to be going in the right direction.
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
      So, deregulating sewer pipes will cause a second set of sewers to be built, which will lead to more competition and cheaper prices? Last-mile networks are natural monopolies, building even only two networks necessarily causes half of the capacity to be unused, which is extremely inefficient, which is why it doesn't happen (among other reasons).
    - KozmoNau7 8y ago
      It makes absolutely no sense to build multiple redundant last mile feeds. It doesn't make sense for water, it doesn't make sense for electricity, it doesn't make sense for sewers and it doesn't make sense for internet connections. ISPs that own the last mile connections obviously don't want to share infrastructure with their competitors, because that would break their de facto monopolies. The only sensible solution is to regulate them into selling access to competitors. It has worked extremely well here, fostering genuine competition, based on pricing and features, not just simple access.

ttoinou 8y ago

The current free market situation has created monopolies in many areas Such as ?

KozmoNau7 8y ago
Countless cities and towns where there is only one ISP, or a duopoly in cahoots to keep prices high and service low, and freezing competitors such as Google Fiber out of the market. This isn't exactly new information, if you haven't noticed the problem by now, you must have been living under a rock. There are hundreds of credible reports and articles about this problem.
- ttoinou 8y ago
  More deregulation would provide the threat of having more competition later, so it would be a factor of development. There are others factors at play too of course, and net neutrality doesn't seem to be going in the right direction.
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
    So, deregulating sewer pipes will cause a second set of sewers to be built, which will lead to more competition and cheaper prices? Last-mile networks are natural monopolies, building even only two networks necessarily causes half of the capacity to be unused, which is extremely inefficient, which is why it doesn't happen (among other reasons).
  - KozmoNau7 8y ago
    It makes absolutely no sense to build multiple redundant last mile feeds. It doesn't make sense for water, it doesn't make sense for electricity, it doesn't make sense for sewers and it doesn't make sense for internet connections. ISPs that own the last mile connections obviously don't want to share infrastructure with their competitors, because that would break their de facto monopolies. The only sensible solution is to regulate them into selling access to competitors. It has worked extremely well here, fostering genuine competition, based on pricing and features, not just simple access.