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Isn’t that exactly the point of internships?

TeMPOraL 9y ago
Internships seem to be structured as yet another hoop to jump through on the path to a career, and by that time it's already expected of you to know what you want to do.
- jaclaz 9y ago
  Actually - as it is often used - internship is only a way to pay less for the same (or sometimes more) not-fully-qualified job. Internship (what was once called apprenticeship) made (and makes) a lot of sense where the employer supplies knowledge (arts and crafts being a typical example), nowadays to actually be considered for an internship you need to have a full, recognized cycle of uni-level study (which is the thing that in theory should have already provided you with all the knowledge - bar the experience - needed for your profession). One thing is having a (lower paid but with "full dignity") entry-level job, and another is having "stages", "internships" and similar, where very often the young people is not actually taught anything and are just a replacement for generic secretarial or similar activities.
  - leetcrew 9y ago
    > Actually - as it is often used - internship is only a way to pay less for the same (or sometimes more) not-fully-qualified job. are you speaking from experience here? i have had several internships, and at each one they let me fix a couple trivial bugs in production before giving me a toy project they have no intention of actually using. my peers have had very similar experiences. i would actually have loved to be given a full engineer's assignment.
    - jaclaz 9y ago
      >are you speaking from experience here? No, not really personal experience, due to age I am way past any internship or apprenticeship possible offer, but I have (much younger than me) cousins and sons of friends that went into the stuff (a couple still are). Also, you are speaking about a very definite field (I presume software engineer or similar), while I was more broadly speaking, an internship at - say - a legal firm or - still say - an accounting firm or other "generic" office, where internships usually (not always) revolve around data entering, making photocopies and similar.
      - leetcrew 9y ago
        ah, i assumed we were talking about SWE type internships. i could certainly see interns doing entry-level work in other fields.
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cm2012 9y ago
Internships are too deep of a commitment at this stage though for shallow learning of a variety of industries, it's more for deep learning when you know your general direction.

Internships seem to be structured as yet another hoop to jump through on the path to a career, and by that time it's already expected of you to know what you want to do.

jaclaz 9y ago
Actually - as it is often used - internship is only a way to pay less for the same (or sometimes more) not-fully-qualified job. Internship (what was once called apprenticeship) made (and makes) a lot of sense where the employer supplies knowledge (arts and crafts being a typical example), nowadays to actually be considered for an internship you need to have a full, recognized cycle of uni-level study (which is the thing that in theory should have already provided you with all the knowledge - bar the experience - needed for your profession). One thing is having a (lower paid but with "full dignity") entry-level job, and another is having "stages", "internships" and similar, where very often the young people is not actually taught anything and are just a replacement for generic secretarial or similar activities.
- leetcrew 9y ago
  > Actually - as it is often used - internship is only a way to pay less for the same (or sometimes more) not-fully-qualified job. are you speaking from experience here? i have had several internships, and at each one they let me fix a couple trivial bugs in production before giving me a toy project they have no intention of actually using. my peers have had very similar experiences. i would actually have loved to be given a full engineer's assignment.
  - jaclaz 9y ago
    >are you speaking from experience here? No, not really personal experience, due to age I am way past any internship or apprenticeship possible offer, but I have (much younger than me) cousins and sons of friends that went into the stuff (a couple still are). Also, you are speaking about a very definite field (I presume software engineer or similar), while I was more broadly speaking, an internship at - say - a legal firm or - still say - an accounting firm or other "generic" office, where internships usually (not always) revolve around data entering, making photocopies and similar.
    - leetcrew 9y ago
      ah, i assumed we were talking about SWE type internships. i could certainly see interns doing entry-level work in other fields.
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cm2012 9y ago

Internships are too deep of a commitment at this stage though for shallow learning of a variety of industries, it's more for deep learning when you know your general direction.