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The complete and utter intentional lack of understanding of the current Russian influence campaign, the ongoing congressional investigations, and the special co

The complete and utter intentional lack of understanding of the current Russian influence campaign, the ongoing congressional investigations, and the special council investigation in this thread is appalling. Once upon a time I thought HN was: A) Well-informed, and B) Not a place for political discussion. Honestly if you can’t find fact from fiction in news articles, just read the damn source documents. You’d probably find it fascinating, instead of just something to dismiss as a bunch of politically-motivated time-wasting. I know this comment is against the guidelines, but so is nearly every single comment on this story.

philtar 8y ago
I think you seriously overestimate how unbiased you are. I say this because you talk as if it's easy to separate fact from fiction these days. If you think it's easy, then I think there are some very important things you're missing.
- heartbreak 8y ago
  I wish my point came across clearer. It wasn’t that I am unbiased. It’s that the comments on this story are willfully ignorant of what we do know. For example it hasn’t been a secret for well over a year that the Russian disinformation played both sides. Yet what do we find? Repeated surprise at the lack of onesidedness in the linked advertisements.
  - Andre_Wanglin 8y ago
    There is a media/political machine at work every day pumping out propaganda that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to "hack" the election in Trump's favor. It should not be surprising that this has been effective in priming people to believe that Russian social media psyops (this is decidedly not "disinformation" as it is largely information-free) were specifically targeted toward glorifying Trump and demonizing Clinton.
gfodor 8y ago
Your comment may have been cathartic but it basically leaves me wondering what you are talking about? Which source documents? What "understanding?" So far the press's reporting on this has been appalling, and in general the public has been kept in the dark.
- severine 8y ago
  https://www.2016activemeasures.org/ https://www.2016activemeasures.org/

philtar 8y ago

I think you seriously overestimate how unbiased you are. I say this because you talk as if it's easy to separate fact from fiction these days. If you think it's easy, then I think there are some very important things you're missing.

heartbreak 8y ago
I wish my point came across clearer. It wasn’t that I am unbiased. It’s that the comments on this story are willfully ignorant of what we do know. For example it hasn’t been a secret for well over a year that the Russian disinformation played both sides. Yet what do we find? Repeated surprise at the lack of onesidedness in the linked advertisements.
- Andre_Wanglin 8y ago
  There is a media/political machine at work every day pumping out propaganda that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to "hack" the election in Trump's favor. It should not be surprising that this has been effective in priming people to believe that Russian social media psyops (this is decidedly not "disinformation" as it is largely information-free) were specifically targeted toward glorifying Trump and demonizing Clinton.

gfodor 8y ago

Your comment may have been cathartic but it basically leaves me wondering what you are talking about? Which source documents? What "understanding?" So far the press's reporting on this has been appalling, and in general the public has been kept in the dark.

severine 8y ago
https://www.2016activemeasures.org/ https://www.2016activemeasures.org/