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I think it's easy to view this that way from the outside, having spent time in this space(on multiple angles both gamedev and HW/OEM): 1. This is still happeni

I think it's easy to view this that way from the outside, having spent time in this space(on multiple angles both gamedev and HW/OEM): 1. This is still happening "at work", from the outside the optics aren't awesome. 2. This is on an official company blog and not Joe developer's blog/etc. Saying "We pissed off their spouses, but hey wasn't it funny!" doesn't paint your company well. 3. There's a culture of "family-second" in the industry which this is just a natural extension of. Yes, they technically had the "free will" to put their foot down. However once you start exercising that option you get marked as "not a team player" and slow-rolled out the door. 4. A lot of younger engineers(myself included at the time) just don't know better and can be naive when it comes to work-life balance. We should be setting a better example so that the industry becomes less of a meat-grinder. The number of really good engineers I see hemorrhage from that industry is incredible.

ng12 8y ago
I think you're over-reacting. I used to work at a company which did lots of shenanigans like this and -- beleive it or not -- the people with families and outside commitments were never shamed, ostracized, or fired for not contributing. I look at it the opposite way: the world is chock full of the 9-5, "bring the kids to soccer practice" culture -- so what if there are a handful of companies are full of energetic young people with an excess of free time? If it bothers you that much, don't work there.
- vvanders 8y ago
  I'll freely admit that I have an axe to grind. However, that's because I've seen this all first-hand across a bunch of different companies. This doesn't sound like young people with free time, this sounds like people with commitments that had a culture where it's okay(and even celebrated) to blow off those commitments. It's a cultural thing in this industry that does a ton of damage to the engineers who want to sustain a family life and work a job that's deep and interesting. I'm certain I'm not over-reacting though, I've seen it enough times in this space(and even from NVidia reps who came to pitch/visit us) that I know it's an issue that's worth addressing.

ng12 8y ago

I think you're over-reacting. I used to work at a company which did lots of shenanigans like this and -- beleive it or not -- the people with families and outside commitments were never shamed, ostracized, or fired for not contributing. I look at it the opposite way: the world is chock full of the 9-5, "bring the kids to soccer practice" culture -- so what if there are a handful of companies are full of energetic young people with an excess of free time? If it bothers you that much, don't work there.

vvanders 8y ago
I'll freely admit that I have an axe to grind. However, that's because I've seen this all first-hand across a bunch of different companies. This doesn't sound like young people with free time, this sounds like people with commitments that had a culture where it's okay(and even celebrated) to blow off those commitments. It's a cultural thing in this industry that does a ton of damage to the engineers who want to sustain a family life and work a job that's deep and interesting. I'm certain I'm not over-reacting though, I've seen it enough times in this space(and even from NVidia reps who came to pitch/visit us) that I know it's an issue that's worth addressing.