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Alternatively, there's Purism (https://puri.sm https://puri.sm), who actually take security and build quality seriously. Edit: looks like the system76 downvote

Alternatively, there's Purism (https://puri.sm https://puri.sm), who actually take security and build quality seriously. Edit: looks like the system76 downvote brigade is hitting this discussion.

jimnotgym 9y ago
The cheapest Purism seems to be $300 more than the cheapest System76. Is the purpose of your comment to say that more expensive laptops are better?
- monochromatic 9y ago
  Is that a controversial idea, that more expensive things are often better?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    I might not phrase it that way, but notice that it's not exactly a one-to-one correlation. Given, y'know, that we are busy discussing hardware to run Linux... Which is free in both senses. It's a stronger correlation in hardware, but still imperfect; one brand being higher quality than another while undercutting them by a couple hundred dollars wouldn't shock me.
- craftyguy 9y ago
  > Is the purpose of your comment to say that more expensive laptops are better? Uh, no. The purpose of my comment is to point out there's a company that builds and sells Linux laptops that are of higher quality. They've put in a lot of work to support Coreboot, disable ME, and have a working TPM. They are trying to reduce their dependence on non-free software. It's a coincidence that in this case you 'get what you pay for'.
driverdan 9y ago
Unfortunately they only offer lower res screens.
busterarm 9y ago
> looks like the system76 downvote brigade is hitting this discussion. Tbh, I'm fairly convinced and have been for some time now that someone involved with that group is part of a voting ring on HN.
- vec 9y ago
  As far as I know, the only three System76 employees who are active on HN are myself, jackpot51, and cassidyjames.
sbov 9y ago
I considered purism in my most recent laptop hunt, but with 4 core laptops going mainstream in Intel's latest update I couldn't justify it.
AdmiralAsshat 9y ago
In theory, if both Purism and System76 upstream their work towards open hardware and in neutralizing the IntelME, the work should benefit everyone.

Alternatively, there's Purism (https://puri.sm https://puri.sm), who actually take security and build quality seriously. Edit: looks like the system76 downvote brigade is hitting this discussion.

jimnotgym 9y ago

The cheapest Purism seems to be $300 more than the cheapest System76. Is the purpose of your comment to say that more expensive laptops are better?

monochromatic 9y ago
Is that a controversial idea, that more expensive things are often better?
- yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
  I might not phrase it that way, but notice that it's not exactly a one-to-one correlation. Given, y'know, that we are busy discussing hardware to run Linux... Which is free in both senses. It's a stronger correlation in hardware, but still imperfect; one brand being higher quality than another while undercutting them by a couple hundred dollars wouldn't shock me.
craftyguy 9y ago
> Is the purpose of your comment to say that more expensive laptops are better? Uh, no. The purpose of my comment is to point out there's a company that builds and sells Linux laptops that are of higher quality. They've put in a lot of work to support Coreboot, disable ME, and have a working TPM. They are trying to reduce their dependence on non-free software. It's a coincidence that in this case you 'get what you pay for'.

driverdan 9y ago

Unfortunately they only offer lower res screens.

busterarm 9y ago

> looks like the system76 downvote brigade is hitting this discussion. Tbh, I'm fairly convinced and have been for some time now that someone involved with that group is part of a voting ring on HN.

vec 9y ago
As far as I know, the only three System76 employees who are active on HN are myself, jackpot51, and cassidyjames.

sbov 9y ago

I considered purism in my most recent laptop hunt, but with 4 core laptops going mainstream in Intel's latest update I couldn't justify it.

AdmiralAsshat 9y ago

In theory, if both Purism and System76 upstream their work towards open hardware and in neutralizing the IntelME, the work should benefit everyone.