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Just stop now and give your money to Beaker Browser https://beakerbrowser.com/ https://beakerbrowser.com/

by wesleytodd 8y ago

notyourwork 8y ago
Care to suggest why?
- wesleytodd 8y ago
  IMHO it is the best bet for actually changing the foundation of the internet back to a distributed model.
  - krapp 8y ago
    > IMHO it is the best bet for actually changing the foundation of the internet back to a distributed model. What does the "foundation of the internet" mean in this context? The internet's structure and its protocols haven't really changed. Are you confusing the centralization of user attention via network effect for centralization of the actual network?
    - wesleytodd 8y ago
      Web applications as we write them today are largely centralized systems with centralized ownership of data and small groups of people owning the lion's share of the traffic/data/user attention etc. Beaker and dat are built on the same base protocols as the traditional web (tcp/udp), but also add higher level protocols for changing the centralized power dynamic I mentioned above. The key, IMO, is that there is a good story for users around transitioning from the centralized web into the decentralized web because of the shared foundation. I see the confusion. When I say "foundation" I mean how we build applications, not the underlying protocols. Maybe I should have said "foundation of web application design", or something like that.
MH15 8y ago
I finally looked into this yesterday. It promises amazing things and is well on it's way to delivery. I'm excited to see where this is going.
isaiahg 8y ago
That's a really interesting project. Are there any plans to incorporate more human readable addresses? I can see how this could be misused by forking a financial institution website and imperceptibly change one letter.
- pfraze 8y ago
  The spec for using DNS is in the process of being written up. Beaker is already using the .well-known part of the spec. See https://github.com/pfrazee/DEPs/blob/e391a04d9a96ddaf3e5a6fdb894aff64a7f6e946/proposals/0000-dns.md https://github.com/pfrazee/DEPs/blob/e391a04d9a96ddaf3e5a6fd...

Just stop now and give your money to Beaker Browser https://beakerbrowser.com/ https://beakerbrowser.com/

notyourwork 8y ago

Care to suggest why?

wesleytodd 8y ago
IMHO it is the best bet for actually changing the foundation of the internet back to a distributed model.
- krapp 8y ago
  > IMHO it is the best bet for actually changing the foundation of the internet back to a distributed model. What does the "foundation of the internet" mean in this context? The internet's structure and its protocols haven't really changed. Are you confusing the centralization of user attention via network effect for centralization of the actual network?
  - wesleytodd 8y ago
    Web applications as we write them today are largely centralized systems with centralized ownership of data and small groups of people owning the lion's share of the traffic/data/user attention etc. Beaker and dat are built on the same base protocols as the traditional web (tcp/udp), but also add higher level protocols for changing the centralized power dynamic I mentioned above. The key, IMO, is that there is a good story for users around transitioning from the centralized web into the decentralized web because of the shared foundation. I see the confusion. When I say "foundation" I mean how we build applications, not the underlying protocols. Maybe I should have said "foundation of web application design", or something like that.

MH15 8y ago

I finally looked into this yesterday. It promises amazing things and is well on it's way to delivery. I'm excited to see where this is going.

isaiahg 8y ago

That's a really interesting project. Are there any plans to incorporate more human readable addresses? I can see how this could be misused by forking a financial institution website and imperceptibly change one letter.

pfraze 8y ago
The spec for using DNS is in the process of being written up. Beaker is already using the .well-known part of the spec. See https://github.com/pfrazee/DEPs/blob/e391a04d9a96ddaf3e5a6fdb894aff64a7f6e946/proposals/0000-dns.md https://github.com/pfrazee/DEPs/blob/e391a04d9a96ddaf3e5a6fd...