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I don't know how this article calculates things, but both Solar and Wind require lots of sites, and lots of working at heights. Every time someone goes up on a

by PJDK 8y ago

I don't know how this article calculates things, but both Solar and Wind require lots of sites, and lots of working at heights. Every time someone goes up on a roof to instal a panel there is a non zero chance that they will fall off and die. The kind of people installing domestic solar don't tend to perform the same level of health and safety analysis as those installing nuclear reactors!

sametmax 8y ago
Plus the radiation from the 3 major nuclear accidents caused a lot of problems the article doesn't acknowledge. In France the number of cancers increased a lot for the generation living on the east border during Tchernobyl. One of my friends had to have his thyroid removed. Fukushima is still leaking radiation in the ocean (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/fukushima-nuclear-disaster-radiation-lethal-levels-leak-japan-tsunami-tokyo-electric-power-company-a8190981.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/fukushima-nucl...) and we can't (don't ?) measure the consequences. Then of course you have the burring sites. And the fact it's used to create bombs and we need only to fail one time to prevent a terrorist to getting one, but they can try again and again. So yes, nuclear energy is an interesting source of technology, but it's not the perfect source HN readers love to depict. It's also very expensive, and the calculations for the cost of nuclear energy usually completely ignore the cost of destroying the plant on retirement. I'm glad we have it, it has many benefits, but let's keep trying to find something better. Wind, solar, fusion...
- imglorp 8y ago
  Maybe when Big Solar has as many lobbyists, astroturfers and PR shills as the defense contractors that build the nuclear stuff, we'll start to see the other kind of article :)
  - supreme_sublime 8y ago
    2 nuclear power plants in the US in the last 20 years. [0] These shills, lobbyists, and astroturfers need to get better at their job for the defense contractors. [0] - https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=228&t=21 https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=228&t=21
    - imglorp 8y ago
      Ah, well that would explain why they're trying to catch up then! Looks like a big crop of new sprouts is being fertilized. I count 18 NRC applications for new reactors. https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/col/new-reactor-map.html https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/col/new-reactor-ma...

by PJDK 8y ago

sametmax 8y ago

Plus the radiation from the 3 major nuclear accidents caused a lot of problems the article doesn't acknowledge. In France the number of cancers increased a lot for the generation living on the east border during Tchernobyl. One of my friends had to have his thyroid removed. Fukushima is still leaking radiation in the ocean (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/fukushima-nuclear-disaster-radiation-lethal-levels-leak-japan-tsunami-tokyo-electric-power-company-a8190981.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/fukushima-nucl...) and we can't (don't ?) measure the consequences. Then of course you have the burring sites. And the fact it's used to create bombs and we need only to fail one time to prevent a terrorist to getting one, but they can try again and again. So yes, nuclear energy is an interesting source of technology, but it's not the perfect source HN readers love to depict. It's also very expensive, and the calculations for the cost of nuclear energy usually completely ignore the cost of destroying the plant on retirement. I'm glad we have it, it has many benefits, but let's keep trying to find something better. Wind, solar, fusion...

imglorp 8y ago
Maybe when Big Solar has as many lobbyists, astroturfers and PR shills as the defense contractors that build the nuclear stuff, we'll start to see the other kind of article :)
- supreme_sublime 8y ago
  2 nuclear power plants in the US in the last 20 years. [0] These shills, lobbyists, and astroturfers need to get better at their job for the defense contractors. [0] - https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=228&t=21 https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=228&t=21
  - imglorp 8y ago
    Ah, well that would explain why they're trying to catch up then! Looks like a big crop of new sprouts is being fertilized. I count 18 NRC applications for new reactors. https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/col/new-reactor-map.html https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/col/new-reactor-ma...