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PhD student here so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I personally love the fact that I can choose to work at home or at the office. I can really concentra

PhD student here so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I personally love the fact that I can choose to work at home or at the office. I can really concentrate at home (private room where I feel comfy) but on the other hand it is also significantly easier to distract yourself from work. Netflix is just one tab away and there's no one to look over your shoulder and whisper in your ear "Don't watch Netflix when you're working". It also depends a lot on my mood. When I feel down and worthless because my research feels like its going nowhere I distract myself more easily. If I feel optimistic like I'm a predator hunting some prey because my research is leading somewhere fruitful I can work anywhere with great focus without the need for distraction.

OpenDrapery 8y ago
I think the big dirty secret is that even in the office, there is a need for down time. The problem is that my options are limited, so I sit at my desk and look at the same stupid web sites in a clandestine manner. Or I get up and go for a walk, and try to get some fresh air. But my office building sits on an interstate and there are no walking paths or benches in sight. At home, my breathers are more energizing, which is the point. I can't believe how ridiculous it is that managers feign surprise when they are told that a task estimated at 4 hours will take a calendar day to complete. That is the nature of the work.
jkcorrea 8y ago
That last sentiment really resonated with me. I'm currently working somewhere that more or less requires a typical M-F 9-5 schedule. I often don't feel in the "mood" on various weekdays, while some weekends I get that "predator" feeling you described and can code non-stop for hours on end. However, since I need to be in the office M-F I more often feel, and give in to, the pressure to not work weekends lest my family and social life/general well-being suffer. I wonder how many productive hours I've lost due to this conundrum, and beyond that how many productive hours have been lost in my company or the modern workplace.
- wool_gather 8y ago
  > the pressure to not work weekends It's interesting that you describe feeling pressure to not work; usually I think people talk about feeling the pressure to work. But I know what you mean. It's hard to know how to balance the two. On the one shoulder is a little voice saying "Don't be a sucker and spend your free time making money for the company! It's just a job! Go have a life". On the other is the pride of craft, and the thrill of having a really good idea that you want to see to the end. I've been thinking a lot about this, not least because my relationship was a bit strained last year due to both of us probably putting too much emphasis on our work. I don't know if ultimately one side or the other is the right answer. Doing good and creative work is important and fulfilling. But friends and family are equally important and fulfilling. Maybe the only way is to carefully guard against either one predominating.
afarrell 8y ago
> Netflix is just one tab away Tools like https://selfcontrolapp.com/ https://selfcontrolapp.com/ and https://freedom.to/ https://freedom.to/ are really helpful here.
wolco 8y ago
If watching netflix helps you work go ahead.
- lucb1e 8y ago
  I think the point was to watch videos exclusively, not just to run something in the background.
isostatic 8y ago
> I can really concentrate at home (private room where I feel comfy) but on the other hand it is also significantly easier to distract yourself from work. Netflix is just one tab away and there's no one to look over your shoulder and whisper in your ear "Don't watch Netflix when you're working". I don't understand people with this problem. The problem I have is switching off from work > If I feel optimistic like I'm a predator hunting some prey That's like me trying to find a seat and socket in the office.

OpenDrapery 8y ago

I think the big dirty secret is that even in the office, there is a need for down time. The problem is that my options are limited, so I sit at my desk and look at the same stupid web sites in a clandestine manner. Or I get up and go for a walk, and try to get some fresh air. But my office building sits on an interstate and there are no walking paths or benches in sight. At home, my breathers are more energizing, which is the point. I can't believe how ridiculous it is that managers feign surprise when they are told that a task estimated at 4 hours will take a calendar day to complete. That is the nature of the work.

jkcorrea 8y ago

That last sentiment really resonated with me. I'm currently working somewhere that more or less requires a typical M-F 9-5 schedule. I often don't feel in the "mood" on various weekdays, while some weekends I get that "predator" feeling you described and can code non-stop for hours on end. However, since I need to be in the office M-F I more often feel, and give in to, the pressure to not work weekends lest my family and social life/general well-being suffer. I wonder how many productive hours I've lost due to this conundrum, and beyond that how many productive hours have been lost in my company or the modern workplace.

wool_gather 8y ago
> the pressure to not work weekends It's interesting that you describe feeling pressure to not work; usually I think people talk about feeling the pressure to work. But I know what you mean. It's hard to know how to balance the two. On the one shoulder is a little voice saying "Don't be a sucker and spend your free time making money for the company! It's just a job! Go have a life". On the other is the pride of craft, and the thrill of having a really good idea that you want to see to the end. I've been thinking a lot about this, not least because my relationship was a bit strained last year due to both of us probably putting too much emphasis on our work. I don't know if ultimately one side or the other is the right answer. Doing good and creative work is important and fulfilling. But friends and family are equally important and fulfilling. Maybe the only way is to carefully guard against either one predominating.

afarrell 8y ago

> Netflix is just one tab away Tools like https://selfcontrolapp.com/ https://selfcontrolapp.com/ and https://freedom.to/ https://freedom.to/ are really helpful here.

wolco 8y ago

If watching netflix helps you work go ahead.

lucb1e 8y ago
I think the point was to watch videos exclusively, not just to run something in the background.

isostatic 8y ago

> I can really concentrate at home (private room where I feel comfy) but on the other hand it is also significantly easier to distract yourself from work. Netflix is just one tab away and there's no one to look over your shoulder and whisper in your ear "Don't watch Netflix when you're working". I don't understand people with this problem. The problem I have is switching off from work > If I feel optimistic like I'm a predator hunting some prey That's like me trying to find a seat and socket in the office.