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>- Gave a late turn order, but then immediately countermanded it, keeping the ship on collision course. This is the part that everybody shakes their heads over

>- Gave a late turn order, but then immediately countermanded it, keeping the ship on collision course. This is the part that everybody shakes their heads over. In that situation, with that geometry between the ships, it's ingrained and almost automatic for the OOD to go right full rudder and all back full: turning the ship astern of the other ship and coming to a complete stop as soon as possible. At that range (2000-3000 yards), there's no way a collision would have happened. But the OOD actually did the exact opposite: increase speed and turn to the left, which will almost certainly result in a collision, especially if the other ship maneuvers the way it's supposed to. Just thinking about giving those orders in that situation is giving me the shivers...

WillPostForFood 8y ago
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217124430.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217124430.h...
- jonnybgood 8y ago
  What are you implying by posting that?
  - ryanwaggoner 8y ago
    I think it's pretty obvious what they're implying. Problem is, it's just a lazy argument. From the article: When tested on mental rotation tasks, men averaged 66 percent correct compared to 53 percent correct for women. So the average man may be better than the average woman at these tasks, but it's not a dramatic difference to my mind, and individual women can certainly be excellent at this kind of spatial reasoning, just like individual men can be terrible at it. Not surprisingly, the Navy actually tests people for these skills and gives them extensive initial and ongoing training. If you can't do this job because your brain doesn't work that way, regardless of gender, it's rather unlikely that you'll have the job in the long run.
- sctb 8y ago
  This is really intellectually lame and super inflammatory. Posting like this will get your account hastily banned, so please don't ever do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - tptacek 8y ago
    Stop giving people second chances for stuff like this. There are borderline cases and tricky cases and all sorts of other cases and I understand that, but this isn't one of them. Stop giving people second chances after posting shit like this.

WillPostForFood 8y ago

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217124430.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217124430.h...

jonnybgood 8y ago
What are you implying by posting that?
- ryanwaggoner 8y ago
  I think it's pretty obvious what they're implying. Problem is, it's just a lazy argument. From the article: When tested on mental rotation tasks, men averaged 66 percent correct compared to 53 percent correct for women. So the average man may be better than the average woman at these tasks, but it's not a dramatic difference to my mind, and individual women can certainly be excellent at this kind of spatial reasoning, just like individual men can be terrible at it. Not surprisingly, the Navy actually tests people for these skills and gives them extensive initial and ongoing training. If you can't do this job because your brain doesn't work that way, regardless of gender, it's rather unlikely that you'll have the job in the long run.
sctb 8y ago
This is really intellectually lame and super inflammatory. Posting like this will get your account hastily banned, so please don't ever do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- tptacek 8y ago
  Stop giving people second chances for stuff like this. There are borderline cases and tricky cases and all sorts of other cases and I understand that, but this isn't one of them. Stop giving people second chances after posting shit like this.