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And what are those specific "terms and conditions"? It's funny hoe Google is somehow perceived as evil while Apple or Amazon not. If I have to trust someone w

And what are those specific "terms and conditions"? It's funny hoe Google is somehow perceived as evil while Apple or Amazon not. If I have to trust someone with mt data (and we all do), I will choose Google over anyone else.

denverkarma 8y ago
I disagree that Amazon is not considered evil. But really I don’t think anyone deeply believes that these companies are good or evil in the personal human sense, rather it’s a question of incentives and interests. Google makes money by selling me to advertisers. I understand the business value but I’m personally not comfortable with it. Amazon makes money by selling me other people’s stuff. I’m comfortable with the business, but sometimes I’m concerned that what’s good for Amazon isn’t what’s good for the people who make the stuff I like. Apple makes money by selling me stuff that they make. This is the business model that I like best, because when they make stuff I don’t like I don’t buy it, and when they make stuff I love I’m happy to give them my money in exchange. Buying from the maker is the best win-win virtuous cycle, in my opinion.
rootusrootus 8y ago
I do not perceive corporations as evil or not; I look at how their interests intersect with mine and select the most comfortable fit. Google makes money by knowing everything they can figure out about me, and they're not especially forthcoming about what they know (or worse, what they think they know). Weirdly, I actually sort of trust them at some level, so if they offered me an option to pay up for a guarantee they won't track me or sell my information to the highest bidder, I would be more interested in their services. Apple is unapologetically interested in getting the largest capital investment from me while being sufficiently committed to keeping my stuff private that the FBI periodically tries to use law to force them to provide a backdoor. At this time I feel that my data is safer with them than any other viable provider. Also, please note the gov't does not seem too concerned about Android devices. That tells me what I need to know, even if the constant security holes and utter lack of updates for devices more than a year old weren't obvious enough (I've had a bunch of Android phones, I'm not an Apple fanboy) You are absolutely welcome to trust whichever corporation makes you most comfortable, no quibbles from me :). It's still a mostly free country.

denverkarma 8y ago

I disagree that Amazon is not considered evil. But really I don’t think anyone deeply believes that these companies are good or evil in the personal human sense, rather it’s a question of incentives and interests. Google makes money by selling me to advertisers. I understand the business value but I’m personally not comfortable with it. Amazon makes money by selling me other people’s stuff. I’m comfortable with the business, but sometimes I’m concerned that what’s good for Amazon isn’t what’s good for the people who make the stuff I like. Apple makes money by selling me stuff that they make. This is the business model that I like best, because when they make stuff I don’t like I don’t buy it, and when they make stuff I love I’m happy to give them my money in exchange. Buying from the maker is the best win-win virtuous cycle, in my opinion.

rootusrootus 8y ago

I do not perceive corporations as evil or not; I look at how their interests intersect with mine and select the most comfortable fit. Google makes money by knowing everything they can figure out about me, and they're not especially forthcoming about what they know (or worse, what they think they know). Weirdly, I actually sort of trust them at some level, so if they offered me an option to pay up for a guarantee they won't track me or sell my information to the highest bidder, I would be more interested in their services. Apple is unapologetically interested in getting the largest capital investment from me while being sufficiently committed to keeping my stuff private that the FBI periodically tries to use law to force them to provide a backdoor. At this time I feel that my data is safer with them than any other viable provider. Also, please note the gov't does not seem too concerned about Android devices. That tells me what I need to know, even if the constant security holes and utter lack of updates for devices more than a year old weren't obvious enough (I've had a bunch of Android phones, I'm not an Apple fanboy) You are absolutely welcome to trust whichever corporation makes you most comfortable, no quibbles from me :). It's still a mostly free country.