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I believe the debate is around whether or not they are facts to begin with.

• cabaalis 9y ago
  Yes, which is why I said "facts" and not "the facts." There is the point of this situation, and the point of ignoring a person's informed opinion. I was discussing the latter.
  • EpicEng 9y ago
    >Yes, which is why I said "facts" and not "the facts." Wow that is an extremely subtle distinction.