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Really this. As an ISP owner, I have to say this is the truth. People and organization who like to badmouth big telcos and ISPs that they are ripping them off d
by pavs 8y ago
Really this. As an ISP owner, I have to say this is the truth. People and organization who like to badmouth big telcos and ISPs that they are ripping them off don't know anything about the business aspect of things. Because they are often thinking about small scale fixed operation cost. While there are small scale wisp success business stories and are probably profitable, they don't scale well when you are big. I wrote about my experience amd actively discourage to go to ISP business if you don't have the money or the technical knowhow and the expense knowhow. Google fibre is a posterboy of why ISP business is hard and expensive to start and scale. Yes Google faced preasure from existing business, but there are many places google did not bother because it would cost them real big investment. They only went to places where they could piggyback on existing infranstructure. Because they know it will take them many decades to see a return in their investment, thats not how google business model works.
https://www.slashgeek.net/2016/05/31/starting-isp-really-hard-dont/ https://www.slashgeek.net/2016/05/31/starting-isp-really-har...
- electricEmu 8y agoTFA isn't about starting an ISP. It's about net neutrality, ISPs, and through United States. You've stated that returns take time. That can be, and is already, costed into an ISP's stock. Why do strong net neutrality laws prevent ISPs from making enough returns? How did ISPs turn record profits when net neutrality laws were in place a short time ago?
- pavs 8y agoI was talking specifically about the person I replied to and many others (actually most comments) in the discussion which had nothing specific about net neutrality about ISPs being profitable.
- everybodyknows 8y agoGreat link. The revelation for me: On-premise gear specific to upstream sources -- Netflix, Google -- turns out to be a business requirement. So NG are more effectively natural monopolies than we might have guessed. Unhappy implications for small WISPs, and for smaller video sites -- Vimeo.
- pavs 8y agoI would Akamai Nodes at the same level. A lot of times large sites leverage on Akamai infrastructure for distribution/CDN. Facebook heavily relied on Akamai (esp outside the USA) for a long time, I don't if they still do it. Youtube's very first live streaming of any type (I think it was a concert) was done on Akamai network. Akamai was and still is a very big player. Facebook also has their on-promise nodes, but I don't think they are as ubiquitous.