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Counterexamples: asbestos, tobacco, alcohol, fossil fuels, climate change. (On the latter two, the studies mostly have the correct outcome. What is difficult i

Counterexamples: asbestos, tobacco, alcohol, fossil fuels, climate change. (On the latter two, the studies mostly have the correct outcome. What is difficult is convincing half of the American population that that matters.)

briandear 8y ago
Who has supported the asbestos industry? Has there ever been a company that actually promotes asbestos?
- dvogel 8y ago
  Yes, in fact asbestos is still mined and marketed today: https://youtu.be/cy3piCUPIkc https://youtu.be/cy3piCUPIkc
  - userbinator 8y ago
    Only white asbestos (also known as Chrysotile) --- and the great number of people who have been exposed to large amounts of it and lived long healthy lives certainly makes one wonder; AFAIK it's only the other types, particularly blue asbestos, which are unanimously carcinogenic and the industry stopped using them a long time ago, but the effects from that (and contamination of white asbestos with the other types) have continued and led the majority of fears. This article is worth reading: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3581056/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3581056/
    - dboreham 8y ago
      In the case of Mesothelioma I believe there's a fair amount of evidence that you need both : 1) Asbestos exposure and 2) to be a smoker. This might explain why some people exposed to asbestos remain healthy. https://www.mesothelioma.com/blog/authors/staff/smoking-asbestos-and-asbestosis-increases-risk-for-lung-cancer.htm https://www.mesothelioma.com/blog/authors/staff/smoking-asbe...
- Bud 8y ago
  Well, um, definitely yes. https://www.pinterest.com/braytonpurcell/vintage-asbestos-advertisements/ https://www.pinterest.com/braytonpurcell/vintage-asbestos-ad...
- fbarred 8y ago
  Not a company exactly, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3Dr0uonc&t=75 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3Dr0uonc&t=75
quietbritishjim 8y ago
Tobacco is definitely not a counter example; the industry managed to cover up / confuse the evidence for years.

briandear 8y ago

Who has supported the asbestos industry? Has there ever been a company that actually promotes asbestos?

dvogel 8y ago
Yes, in fact asbestos is still mined and marketed today: https://youtu.be/cy3piCUPIkc https://youtu.be/cy3piCUPIkc
- userbinator 8y ago
  Only white asbestos (also known as Chrysotile) --- and the great number of people who have been exposed to large amounts of it and lived long healthy lives certainly makes one wonder; AFAIK it's only the other types, particularly blue asbestos, which are unanimously carcinogenic and the industry stopped using them a long time ago, but the effects from that (and contamination of white asbestos with the other types) have continued and led the majority of fears. This article is worth reading: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3581056/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3581056/
  - dboreham 8y ago
    In the case of Mesothelioma I believe there's a fair amount of evidence that you need both : 1) Asbestos exposure and 2) to be a smoker. This might explain why some people exposed to asbestos remain healthy. https://www.mesothelioma.com/blog/authors/staff/smoking-asbestos-and-asbestosis-increases-risk-for-lung-cancer.htm https://www.mesothelioma.com/blog/authors/staff/smoking-asbe...
Bud 8y ago
Well, um, definitely yes. https://www.pinterest.com/braytonpurcell/vintage-asbestos-advertisements/ https://www.pinterest.com/braytonpurcell/vintage-asbestos-ad...
fbarred 8y ago
Not a company exactly, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3Dr0uonc&t=75 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3Dr0uonc&t=75

quietbritishjim 8y ago

Tobacco is definitely not a counter example; the industry managed to cover up / confuse the evidence for years.