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No there isnt a secret cabal of jewish warlords ordering christians around. Or Muslims. Or atheists even for that matter.

ghba66 8y ago
Nice strawman. No, there is not, but everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel at the detriment of the rest of the world. The fact that there's no way to have this conversation just proves it further.
- isostatic 8y ago
  There is a large Jewish^W Israel-Fan-Club demographic in the US that puts the treatment as Israel as the highest importance when deciding who to vote for. Due to the way that, in the U.S. political system, power shuffles from one extreme to another at the movement of a few thousand votes, both sides have to keep that demographic on board, and that means supporting Israel's right to exist (Israel being a tiny country in the middle east, which has been invaded by it's neighbours on more than one occasion) There's a strong argument that the US diplomatic stance (especially the vetos on security council resolutions) is pro Israel because if it wasn't, the sitting party would lose a lot of votes. However I'm not aware of any military action taken by the US, let alone NATO, at the behest of Israel. If the U.S. democratic system was actually representative, and didn't favour a 'winner takes all' one party system, perhaps the treatment of Israel would be less of a crucial matter.
  - jcranmer 8y ago
    The pro-Israel policy isn't driven by Jews, it's driven by evangelical Christians.
  - prklmn 8y ago
    There are 5-6 million Jews in the US, that’s a small demographic any way you cut it. You could say it’s a large demographic in New York City, but I don’t think you could say that about any other part of the country. Americans as a whole (not select demographics) overwhelmingly support Israel. Here’s a recent poll http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchly-israel-corner.aspx http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchl...
- Angostura 8y ago
  > everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel "Everything" is pretty strong word. Let's see if it's born out: https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm
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ghba66 8y ago

Nice strawman. No, there is not, but everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel at the detriment of the rest of the world. The fact that there's no way to have this conversation just proves it further.

isostatic 8y ago
There is a large Jewish^W Israel-Fan-Club demographic in the US that puts the treatment as Israel as the highest importance when deciding who to vote for. Due to the way that, in the U.S. political system, power shuffles from one extreme to another at the movement of a few thousand votes, both sides have to keep that demographic on board, and that means supporting Israel's right to exist (Israel being a tiny country in the middle east, which has been invaded by it's neighbours on more than one occasion) There's a strong argument that the US diplomatic stance (especially the vetos on security council resolutions) is pro Israel because if it wasn't, the sitting party would lose a lot of votes. However I'm not aware of any military action taken by the US, let alone NATO, at the behest of Israel. If the U.S. democratic system was actually representative, and didn't favour a 'winner takes all' one party system, perhaps the treatment of Israel would be less of a crucial matter.
- jcranmer 8y ago
  The pro-Israel policy isn't driven by Jews, it's driven by evangelical Christians.
- prklmn 8y ago
  There are 5-6 million Jews in the US, that’s a small demographic any way you cut it. You could say it’s a large demographic in New York City, but I don’t think you could say that about any other part of the country. Americans as a whole (not select demographics) overwhelmingly support Israel. Here’s a recent poll http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchly-israel-corner.aspx http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchl...
Angostura 8y ago
> everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel "Everything" is pretty strong word. Let's see if it's born out: https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm
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