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Because the leader isn't the point; the political parties are. He's a unifying figure for an ethnic-minority and liberal-opposition coalition very different fro

Because the leader isn't the point; the political parties are. He's a unifying figure for an ethnic-minority and liberal-opposition coalition very different from the one that's ruled the country since independence.

rayiner 9y ago
“The Europeans killed six million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.” - The Prime Minister Elect of Malaysia. He’s the liberal opposition?
- ghba66 9y ago
  Well... isn't that true?
  - frostwhale 9y ago
    No there isnt a secret cabal of jewish warlords ordering christians around. Or Muslims. Or atheists even for that matter.
    - ghba66 9y ago
      Nice strawman. No, there is not, but everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel at the detriment of the rest of the world. The fact that there's no way to have this conversation just proves it further.
      - isostatic 9y ago
        There is a large Jewish^W Israel-Fan-Club demographic in the US that puts the treatment as Israel as the highest importance when deciding who to vote for. Due to the way that, in the U.S. political system, power shuffles from one extreme to another at the movement of a few thousand votes, both sides have to keep that demographic on board, and that means supporting Israel's right to exist (Israel being a tiny country in the middle east, which has been invaded by it's neighbours on more than one occasion) There's a strong argument that the US diplomatic stance (especially the vetos on security council resolutions) is pro Israel because if it wasn't, the sitting party would lose a lot of votes. However I'm not aware of any military action taken by the US, let alone NATO, at the behest of Israel. If the U.S. democratic system was actually representative, and didn't favour a 'winner takes all' one party system, perhaps the treatment of Israel would be less of a crucial matter.
        jcranmer 9y ago
        The pro-Israel policy isn't driven by Jews, it's driven by evangelical Christians.
        prklmn 9y ago
        There are 5-6 million Jews in the US, that’s a small demographic any way you cut it. You could say it’s a large demographic in New York City, but I don’t think you could say that about any other part of the country. Americans as a whole (not select demographics) overwhelmingly support Israel. Here’s a recent poll http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchly-israel-corner.aspx http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchl...
      - Angostura 9y ago
        > everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel "Everything" is pretty strong word. Let's see if it's born out: https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm
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- mango7283 9y ago
  Not him personally, but at least 2 out of the 4 parties are, by Malaysian standards
- azernik 9y ago
  He leads a breakaway party (the Malaysian United Indigenous Party [1]) that jumped over two years ago from the ruling party to the opposition coalition. That party is only a bit over 10% of the coalition that won this election (12 / 113 seats); he's basically a figurehead/placeholder with good name recognition, holding the spot until the leader of the largest party in the coalition (Anwar Ibrahim of the People's Justice Party [2], with 49 of the coalition's seats) finishes the jail sentence for his politically-motivated sodomy charges. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_United_Indigenous_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_United_Indigenous_Pa... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Justice_Party_(Malaysia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Justice_Party_(Mala...
- thisrod 9y ago
  Mahathir was the Prime Minister who cleaned up the mess George Soros made in 1998, and I'm sure that when he talks about Jews, he means one in particular. That isn't an excuse.

rayiner 9y ago

“The Europeans killed six million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.” - The Prime Minister Elect of Malaysia. He’s the liberal opposition?

ghba66 9y ago
Well... isn't that true?
- frostwhale 9y ago
  No there isnt a secret cabal of jewish warlords ordering christians around. Or Muslims. Or atheists even for that matter.
  - ghba66 9y ago
    Nice strawman. No, there is not, but everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel at the detriment of the rest of the world. The fact that there's no way to have this conversation just proves it further.
    - isostatic 9y ago
      There is a large Jewish^W Israel-Fan-Club demographic in the US that puts the treatment as Israel as the highest importance when deciding who to vote for. Due to the way that, in the U.S. political system, power shuffles from one extreme to another at the movement of a few thousand votes, both sides have to keep that demographic on board, and that means supporting Israel's right to exist (Israel being a tiny country in the middle east, which has been invaded by it's neighbours on more than one occasion) There's a strong argument that the US diplomatic stance (especially the vetos on security council resolutions) is pro Israel because if it wasn't, the sitting party would lose a lot of votes. However I'm not aware of any military action taken by the US, let alone NATO, at the behest of Israel. If the U.S. democratic system was actually representative, and didn't favour a 'winner takes all' one party system, perhaps the treatment of Israel would be less of a crucial matter.
      - jcranmer 9y ago
        The pro-Israel policy isn't driven by Jews, it's driven by evangelical Christians.
      - prklmn 9y ago
        There are 5-6 million Jews in the US, that’s a small demographic any way you cut it. You could say it’s a large demographic in New York City, but I don’t think you could say that about any other part of the country. Americans as a whole (not select demographics) overwhelmingly support Israel. Here’s a recent poll http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchly-israel-corner.aspx http://news.gallup.com/poll/229199/americans-remain-staunchl...
    - Angostura 9y ago
      > everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel "Everything" is pretty strong word. Let's see if it's born out: https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm
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mango7283 9y ago
Not him personally, but at least 2 out of the 4 parties are, by Malaysian standards
azernik 9y ago
He leads a breakaway party (the Malaysian United Indigenous Party [1]) that jumped over two years ago from the ruling party to the opposition coalition. That party is only a bit over 10% of the coalition that won this election (12 / 113 seats); he's basically a figurehead/placeholder with good name recognition, holding the spot until the leader of the largest party in the coalition (Anwar Ibrahim of the People's Justice Party [2], with 49 of the coalition's seats) finishes the jail sentence for his politically-motivated sodomy charges. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_United_Indigenous_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_United_Indigenous_Pa... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Justice_Party_(Malaysia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Justice_Party_(Mala...
thisrod 9y ago
Mahathir was the Prime Minister who cleaned up the mess George Soros made in 1998, and I'm sure that when he talks about Jews, he means one in particular. That isn't an excuse.