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Well binary logs seem to be a good enough reason for me. I use FreeBSD and Devuan feels like I am in control. Some commercial software won't work on FreeBSD so

Well binary logs seem to be a good enough reason for me. I use FreeBSD and Devuan feels like I am in control. Some commercial software won't work on FreeBSD so I have to use some Linux. I also use Alpine because it uses OpenRC. With gLibc missing it is tough to compile some software. Compared, Devuan seems to be very software compatible and offers the familiarity of Debian. Over at FreeBSD we have loads of new users thanks to systemd. Keep up the great work RedHat.

iforgotpassword 8y ago
That's why I have a wildcard redirect to rsyslogd, the journal is pretty much mirrored in text form in /var/log. I still think systemd is by far the best init system around. Service files are a trillion times cleaner, easier to understand and maintain than those bloated 90% copy and past init scripts with the retarded archaic run level concept. Really, if I had a reasonable amount of free time left I'd start something like systemd lite which is just the init part and none of the other bullshit. You could already just use that part but there is still quite a bit of crap around that could just be removed.
- JdeBP 8y ago
  You need to learn about uselessd. And you need to stop committing the fallacy of allowing for only two systems in the world, systemd and van Smoorenburg init+rc. This fallacy was called out by the author of uselessd. * http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ * http://jdebp.eu./FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-side.html http://jdebp.eu./FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-s...
gsich 8y ago
I hear the binary logging argument very often. What is bad with it? Is the format not specified? Maybe it is more efficient to log this way. Often it comes down to "it's not text, which I don't like, ergo binary is bad".

iforgotpassword 8y ago

That's why I have a wildcard redirect to rsyslogd, the journal is pretty much mirrored in text form in /var/log. I still think systemd is by far the best init system around. Service files are a trillion times cleaner, easier to understand and maintain than those bloated 90% copy and past init scripts with the retarded archaic run level concept. Really, if I had a reasonable amount of free time left I'd start something like systemd lite which is just the init part and none of the other bullshit. You could already just use that part but there is still quite a bit of crap around that could just be removed.

JdeBP 8y ago
You need to learn about uselessd. And you need to stop committing the fallacy of allowing for only two systems in the world, systemd and van Smoorenburg init+rc. This fallacy was called out by the author of uselessd. * http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ * http://jdebp.eu./FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-side.html http://jdebp.eu./FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-s...

gsich 8y ago

I hear the binary logging argument very often. What is bad with it? Is the format not specified? Maybe it is more efficient to log this way. Often it comes down to "it's not text, which I don't like, ergo binary is bad".