I appreciate you engaging on this in such an honest fashion. I meant that to be a bit tongue-in-cheek and was evoking Bill Burr perhaps a bit too much. TBH thou

I appreciate you engaging on this in such an honest fashion. I meant that to be a bit tongue-in-cheek and was evoking Bill Burr perhaps a bit too much. TBH though, I was very tired and too hostile with my post. In my defense though, this whole conversation feels like a time loop on HN every time it comes up. It's not hard to predict/categorize the arguments and arguers at this point, as a generalization. You have a vocal group of progressive enhancement cargo-culters who are a decade out of time; the very real motivators for the formation of the dogma missing for years. For them, progressive enhancement is "the way it should be". Then you have a group that know the ship has sailed shouting down anyone who won't join the new world order, regardless of whether they have significant value/cost reasons. Both sides talk at each other. On the fringes there are the hypermilers and the data analysts. There is a small contingent of the equiv to hypermilers; they know it's rather inconsequential, with no notions confusable with ideology, but it's more of a game or hobby to them. The data analysts actually talk about the numbers of people still blocking javascript and whether it's worth the effort in 2018 for the average site. At this point it's more a social study than an insight into the cost/benefit.