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Force the middle class out of the city, give them shitty transit options, then tax the hell out of them when they decide to drive. Wonderful.

• SilasX 8y ago
  The idea is that the bus wouldn't be shitty if it weren't having to compete on equal terms with the rest of the choked traffic.
• wool_gather 8y ago
  You have a point, even though I disagree in the long view. It is a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation. Making transit really good is very hard until cars are deprioritized. And until transit is really good, deprioritizing cars screws a lot of people over.
• kcorbitt 8y ago
  Buses works great as a middle-class transit option in lots of places. When I lived in Barcelona I used the city bus as my primary method of short- to medium-distance transit, as did, I believe, the majority of middle-class residents. Taking the bus doesn't have to be the terrible experience it has devolved into in many US metro areas.
• dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  You're gonna get flagged for that because it's in direct contradiction with the beliefs of most here.
  • s2g 8y ago
    You're gonna get flagged for pointing out that HN is a pretty extreme echo chamber.