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No one's going to publicly agree with you, but they all do.

jdavis703 8y ago
The public already publicly agrees on this. AB716 gives BART (and other CA transportation agencies) the right to give riders a "stay away" order. If my personal interactions with BARTPD are indications, this law is however designed to keep away people who look like "undesirables," which is why these kinds of things are generally a bad idea.
busterarm 8y ago
This is exactly why I take the bus outside of peak hours though! In particular the M20 from State St/Whitehall up 8th avenue. The MTA is so stigmatized by people under 50 here where "only crazy people and the elderly take the bus". I'm guaranteed a nice, quiet ride where I get a seat the whole way. It's a little slower, but not much. Meanwhile, the subway is just about unbearable always. The tricky part is getting the bus driver to even stop for you if you don't "look like you take the bus". 80% of the time I'll be waving them down at the stop and they'll just blow past it if nobody requests the stop inside.
komali2 8y ago
Woah, is this a reverse no true Scotsman? What fallacy is this? Just to instantly dismember your argument, which hinges on the word "they all," I'll put my hand up as a "I'd ride next to homeless every day if it saves me transit money."
- test1235 8y ago
  No you wouldn't. When people say 'homeless', they don't care about the residential state of the individual, but the physical state. I couldn't care less if a fellow rider is homeless as long as they don't stink and are not rude or violent. I don't even care if they're drunk as long as they don't interact with me. I take the bus to work everyday here in UK and besides some people squashing too close to me when they sit down (which is more to do with the size of the seats, to be fair), it's perfectly fine.
  - komali2 8y ago
    Haha, it's wonderful when people speak for me so confidently, because it's the only time in my life I get to justifiably completely negate what is being said to me. So once again: yup, I would. Pissy, shit covered insane people. Whatever. I hope you remember before trying again that people exist that clean up blood and shit for a living and are unfazed by it. There's also the homeless outreach teams that have already "seen it all." For the record, I do already ride the bus and Bart when it's the convenient option, and I've already had to deal with all the shit those above are claiming are impossible to handle.

The public already publicly agrees on this. AB716 gives BART (and other CA transportation agencies) the right to give riders a "stay away" order. If my personal interactions with BARTPD are indications, this law is however designed to keep away people who look like "undesirables," which is why these kinds of things are generally a bad idea.

busterarm 8y ago

This is exactly why I take the bus outside of peak hours though! In particular the M20 from State St/Whitehall up 8th avenue. The MTA is so stigmatized by people under 50 here where "only crazy people and the elderly take the bus". I'm guaranteed a nice, quiet ride where I get a seat the whole way. It's a little slower, but not much. Meanwhile, the subway is just about unbearable always. The tricky part is getting the bus driver to even stop for you if you don't "look like you take the bus". 80% of the time I'll be waving them down at the stop and they'll just blow past it if nobody requests the stop inside.

komali2 8y ago

Woah, is this a reverse no true Scotsman? What fallacy is this? Just to instantly dismember your argument, which hinges on the word "they all," I'll put my hand up as a "I'd ride next to homeless every day if it saves me transit money."

test1235 8y ago
No you wouldn't. When people say 'homeless', they don't care about the residential state of the individual, but the physical state. I couldn't care less if a fellow rider is homeless as long as they don't stink and are not rude or violent. I don't even care if they're drunk as long as they don't interact with me. I take the bus to work everyday here in UK and besides some people squashing too close to me when they sit down (which is more to do with the size of the seats, to be fair), it's perfectly fine.
- komali2 8y ago
  Haha, it's wonderful when people speak for me so confidently, because it's the only time in my life I get to justifiably completely negate what is being said to me. So once again: yup, I would. Pissy, shit covered insane people. Whatever. I hope you remember before trying again that people exist that clean up blood and shit for a living and are unfazed by it. There's also the homeless outreach teams that have already "seen it all." For the record, I do already ride the bus and Bart when it's the convenient option, and I've already had to deal with all the shit those above are claiming are impossible to handle.