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I believe comparing murder to sexual harassment is plain misleading. If someone acuses someone else of murdering his neighbour they will have to go to all leng

I believe comparing murder to sexual harassment is plain misleading. If someone acuses someone else of murdering his neighbour they will have to go to all lenghts to prove it and it's a major moral line to cross. If someone acuses someone else of sexually harassing a woman, whether they're guilty or not, they'd most likely lose their job straight away and be labelled as a "perv" or something similar. I can't see how you can compare those. In your particular case, the equivalent would be a man screaming "sexual harassment" from another man. There's a huge stigma accompanied with that. It's just not socially acceptable on society today. On top of that the homossexual community is another minority with all the weight of discrimination following it. Let's say that happens. It's easier for you to prove he fired you because of your sexual orientation than for him to prove you harassed him. I believe there's a reason you don't feel this threatened. It's because unfortunately that's how society works today. [Edit: grammar]

colemickens 8y ago
>It's easier for you to prove he fired you because of your sexual orientation than for him to prove you harassed him. So, I can't understand as a gay man because I'm immune to accusations of sexual harassment because I can just use my orientation as a discrimination shield? Eh, no, not really. Frankly, it doesn't make sense and er, it doesn't address the fact that the other person could be gay? While I concede that a false allegation of sexual harassment carries a different weight than a false allegation of murder... false accusations are lies and presumably will happen even if you avoid all contact with someone, no? I guess I don't know what the alternative is. If I have to choose between ignoring workplace harassment and having folks err on the side of caution in the workplace behavior, I know which way I hope for us to err.
- Draiken 8y ago
  I didn't mean to imply you can't understand that because of being gay. I merely think sexual orientation changes the entire thing. The tension people feel comes from society and IMO that's very different when it's not the traditional heterosexual dynamic. As much as I'd love to live in a world where everyone is truly equal, that's not the world we live in. > false accusations are lies and presumably will happen even if you avoid all contact with someone, no? Absolutely true. But lying about sexual misconduct is relatively easy compared to a murder. If someone does decide to be malicious against you, it's easier to prove them wrong if it's known that you stay away from the other person. Because of gossip and perception if you're close to someone of the opposite sex on the work environment people assume the worst.

colemickens 8y ago

>It's easier for you to prove he fired you because of your sexual orientation than for him to prove you harassed him. So, I can't understand as a gay man because I'm immune to accusations of sexual harassment because I can just use my orientation as a discrimination shield? Eh, no, not really. Frankly, it doesn't make sense and er, it doesn't address the fact that the other person could be gay? While I concede that a false allegation of sexual harassment carries a different weight than a false allegation of murder... false accusations are lies and presumably will happen even if you avoid all contact with someone, no? I guess I don't know what the alternative is. If I have to choose between ignoring workplace harassment and having folks err on the side of caution in the workplace behavior, I know which way I hope for us to err.

Draiken 8y ago
I didn't mean to imply you can't understand that because of being gay. I merely think sexual orientation changes the entire thing. The tension people feel comes from society and IMO that's very different when it's not the traditional heterosexual dynamic. As much as I'd love to live in a world where everyone is truly equal, that's not the world we live in. > false accusations are lies and presumably will happen even if you avoid all contact with someone, no? Absolutely true. But lying about sexual misconduct is relatively easy compared to a murder. If someone does decide to be malicious against you, it's easier to prove them wrong if it's known that you stay away from the other person. Because of gossip and perception if you're close to someone of the opposite sex on the work environment people assume the worst.