I originally started with AngularJS and hated it, I was learning javascript alongside it and I couldn't stand the abstraction layer, I felt I wasn't learning an

I originally started with AngularJS and hated it, I was learning javascript alongside it and I couldn't stand the abstraction layer, I felt I wasn't learning anything except how to make things 'work' in angular. Then comes react, I get to see all my logic right along with my html/css! It was great, I learned how to debug, where things were going wrong or right and then began to work on the better practices and work flow. They take time and deliberate practice to really understand 'why'. THEN add redux and see how you can use it to help your app communicate. Multiple component-prop passings/pervasive callback chains all start to disappear and that's great. I can't stress enough how sexy and clean a productive vanilla react app looks to me now. I also just started a new job 2 months ago where we use modern angular(i actually really like it now). So it goes...