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I am tired of people calling me a "victim" of identity theft. I'm not the victim. The companies and government agencies that allowed themselves to be defrauded

I am tired of people calling me a "victim" of identity theft. I'm not the victim. The companies and government agencies that allowed themselves to be defrauded by someone posing as me are the victims. If you didn't do your due diligence in properly verifying the identity of the person you handed out cash, goods or services too it's on you. That being said, the entire system is broken. I've had 5 cellphones taken out in my name, I've had multiple credit cards opened using my social security number. I've been interviewed by a special agent with the State Department because someone tried to get a passport using my data. I'm sick of dealing with other peoples fraud problems. Fix it already!

dragonwriter 8y ago
> I am tired of people calling me a "victim" of identity theft. I'm not the victim. Usually, the person whose identity is stolen is the victin. > The companies and government agencies that allowed themselves to be defrauded by someone posing as me are the victims. They are also victims, but until you—often at considerable personal effort—have gotten all the debts and other bad marks by the fraudster dissociated from your identity, you are disadvantaged by it, and if you are disadvantaged or have had to pay a cost to escape that disadvantage, you are a victim, too.
- typomatic 8y ago
  > They are also victims, but until you—often at considerable personal effort—have gotten all the debts and other bad marks by the fraudster dissociated from your identity, you are disadvantaged by it, and if you are disadvantaged or have had to pay a cost to escape that disadvantage, you are a victim, too. You seem to be misunderstanding the point badly--the situation you have described is nonsense. Firstly, what do we mean by "having your identity stolen"? I submit that this is not an attack on me as a person, it is an attack on a fictional representation of me held by a conglomerate of corporations. This is the point of OP: I am not involved in these transactions! I haven't committed a crime, purchased anything, or interacted with either the party who has defrauded this conglomerate nor this conglomerate. In fact, due to the way this information is collected and stored, I may not have ever had any direct relationship to either party. So what's happened here is that a conglomerate of companies have been defrauded and now insist that I am to make amends for it. It's nonsensical, and no amount of repeating the facts of the current situation will make it anything but ridiculous.
AndyMcConachie 8y ago
This 2 minute video explains everything you need to know about the phallacy of identity theft. With credits to Mitchell and Webb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E
harlanji 8y ago
Good to know. Concurrent crises also F everything on paper without fam wealth, up but are less common and probably not considered. 800 credit until that, as we start talking about block chain of course. May we always be unchained in these matters, or use a chain model that rolls off old data and keeps an initial value aggregate of old data on the effective block0/genesis or so.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> I am tired of people calling me a "victim" of identity theft. I'm not the victim. Usually, the person whose identity is stolen is the victin. > The companies and government agencies that allowed themselves to be defrauded by someone posing as me are the victims. They are also victims, but until you—often at considerable personal effort—have gotten all the debts and other bad marks by the fraudster dissociated from your identity, you are disadvantaged by it, and if you are disadvantaged or have had to pay a cost to escape that disadvantage, you are a victim, too.

typomatic 8y ago
> They are also victims, but until you—often at considerable personal effort—have gotten all the debts and other bad marks by the fraudster dissociated from your identity, you are disadvantaged by it, and if you are disadvantaged or have had to pay a cost to escape that disadvantage, you are a victim, too. You seem to be misunderstanding the point badly--the situation you have described is nonsense. Firstly, what do we mean by "having your identity stolen"? I submit that this is not an attack on me as a person, it is an attack on a fictional representation of me held by a conglomerate of corporations. This is the point of OP: I am not involved in these transactions! I haven't committed a crime, purchased anything, or interacted with either the party who has defrauded this conglomerate nor this conglomerate. In fact, due to the way this information is collected and stored, I may not have ever had any direct relationship to either party. So what's happened here is that a conglomerate of companies have been defrauded and now insist that I am to make amends for it. It's nonsensical, and no amount of repeating the facts of the current situation will make it anything but ridiculous.

AndyMcConachie 8y ago

This 2 minute video explains everything you need to know about the phallacy of identity theft. With credits to Mitchell and Webb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E

harlanji 8y ago

Good to know. Concurrent crises also F everything on paper without fam wealth, up but are less common and probably not considered. 800 credit until that, as we start talking about block chain of course. May we always be unchained in these matters, or use a chain model that rolls off old data and keeps an initial value aggregate of old data on the effective block0/genesis or so.