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Not just the US. Most of the western world has incredibly invasive security theatre in airports and train stations now.
by Tharkun 8y ago
Not just the US. Most of the western world has incredibly invasive security theatre in airports and train stations now.
- moz23 8y agoNo, it doesn't. (Except for perhaps UK and Canada.)
- rosser 8y agoI regularly travel to Peru. For years now, it has been the policy of the Peruvian aviation authority that you may not board flights to the US with bottles of water purchased after the security checkpoint. They have queues set up at the gate to rifle through your knickers in search of contraband dihydrogen monoxide, and will force you to dump any you have, and/or deny you boarding if you don't comply obsequiously enough. Flying to Mexico (or anywhere else) and then the States? Or even Europe? You're fine. Even when you board the flight that will land in the States, your water is welcome. It's only direct flights to the US, and it's only (in my experience) enforced on outbound flights, from Lima. I've never encountered this anywhere else, and I've visited dozens of countries, and did a several months long RTW a few years ago. Once you've spent 6-10 hours in a can at cruising altitude, with only the occasional thimbleful of water a few times, because of this kind of invasive idiocy, you might have a broader perspective on how much of aviation security is theater. EDIT: That's just one example of the absurdity I've encountered in my travels. Another: being told that my carry-on sized backpack was somehow a material threat to the plane I was trying to board, and that it needed to be checked in the hold. What am I supposed to do there? Logic my way out of my paid fare? Into one of $country's TSA-alike's interrogation rooms? This nonsense is endemic to air travel, over the last decade particularly, and it's only getting worse.
- mpweiher 8y agoHuh? When I get on a train in Germany, I open the door and step inside. The train station is usually even simpler.
- icebraining 8y agoSame at least in Portugal, Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and France.
- the-dude 8y agoNot true anymore in every NL station : we have entrance gates, no ticket, no entry to the boarding area.
- icebraining 8y agoCurious. Is that very recent? I was in Amsterdam last year and while I remember the ticket validators, I don't remember them being mandatory; I think we've even passed them to cross the station to the other side, to catch the ferry.
- the-dude 8y agoIt is recent, not everywhere and loosely enforced. But the intent is there. The situation in A'dam : I guess it is impractical and unwanted to close the corridor from the one end to the other.
- mercer 8y agoIn Utrecht they recently closed the main corridor from one end of the station to the other (which, unlike the Amsterdam station, also splits the city in half). Fortunately, they left a relatively narrow outside corridor open. Still feels odd to have to check in and out again when you're coming from or to some of the main busses, or take a detour.
- Tharkun 8y agoI should have been more clear in my comment, I was referring to international high speed trains. Including mandatory registration of passengers and keeping the data for X years. Presumably these passenger manifests are also exchanged with other countries. But even regional services include oodles of cameras, including on the trains. There's tracking of passengers and their destination. There are heavily armed guards/police/soldiers in many European train stations.
- gnode 8y agoLiving in the UK, I've not really seen any invasive security, beyond a ticket turnstile at train stations, or anywhere in Europe. Is this a thing in the US?