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Who is hoarding currency on a notable scale? Why would they at the very least not invest in short-term bonds/mmfs
by frockington 8y ago
Who is hoarding currency on a notable scale? Why would they at the very least not invest in short-term bonds/mmfs
- emodendroket 8y agoMostly drug traffickers and other people involved in illegal businesses. Hey, maybe Bitcoin isn't that different from other currencies after all.
- hapnin 8y agoIt used to be called "savings".
- mkirklions 8y agoSavings accounts were replaced by checking accounts after the great depression. They still called them savings accounts, but people had no idea that 'savings' meant people did not have instant + reliable access to it. So now we have 0.01% interest 'savings' accounts! They are just as liquid as our checking accounts.
- frockington 8y agoDo people still use savings accounts on any significant amount of money? I'll admit I live in a bubble and don't know how most Americans store wealth
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- misja111 8y agoBut there's a huge difference. With old fashioned "savings", the money was in a bank, which in turn would use it to invest it elsewhere. In other words, the money would still circulate in the economy. On the other hand, these bitcoins that are hoarded in a bunker are extracted from the economy as long as they are there. The implications are big: with the current trend of concentrating wealth to only a small fraction of the population, at least all that money is not 'gone'. Even though the rich probably don't pay much taxes over it, their banks will invest it in other companies. If this bitcoin hoarding ever becomes a trend, the consequences for the economy will be disastrous.
- mr_spothawk 8y agotoday's market cap for BTC is around 158 Billion$. so we're talking about something around 7% of the world supply, "locked in an underground bunker". What's not clear to me: is this just the keys stored underground and clients have access? or is this "cold storage"? I'd speculate that more than 7% of the world's gold is locked up in bunkers, where it can be accounted for and borrowed against. Nobody is shocked to know that gold is stored in vaults. Nobody is shouting that the folks buying overpriced coins from stupid mints are going to decimate the world economy with their irresponsible hoarding. We're all just totally comfortable that, yeah... in a situation where a-bombs start dropping, gold would probably be a functional store of value.
- frockington 8y agoNobody is shocked because at least gold has a historical value and won't dissappear. When the a-bombs start dropping, nobody is going to want a piece of steel with an engraved bitcoin wallet key
- ric2b 8y ago> When the a-bombs start dropping, nobody is going to want a piece of steel with an engraved bitcoin wallet key But they'll want a bunch of a heavy yellow metal? At least the small piece of steel is easier to carry around.
- 21 8y ago> On the other hand, these bitcoins that are hoarded in a bunker are extracted from the economy as long as they are there. These bitcoins were bought with cash, which is now sitting in the sellers "savings" account. The dollars did not disappear in thin air.
- lmm 8y agoThose dollars continue to circulate, contributing to a functional dollar economy. Those bitcoins don't, so we don't have a functional bitcoin economy.
- rabbitonrails 8y agoThe people who sell the short term bonds / mmfs? Is it a sign of a fraud when you can’t tell if comments are trolling or not?
- frockington 8y agoThey are not, they invest that money but have different liquidity requirements so they can invest in longer term vehicles with higher yield