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You lose the security when using GalliumOS. Used all the methods to use GNU/Linux on a CB. From using Crouton, Gallium, GNURoot, Termux and now using this a

You lose the security when using GalliumOS. Used all the methods to use GNU/Linux on a CB. From using Crouton, Gallium, GNURoot, Termux and now using this as have a PixelBook. In the US so our school uses Chromebooks which replaced all the Macs. Had to hack together a way to use the CBs for AP CS 1 and 2. But now it will have support built in. By far the best approach is what Google is doing here. Keep all the security and no need to dual boot or put in developer mode. Plus this makes GNU/Linux far more approachable. Will also be able to walk into a BestBuy and chose between a bunch of different machines depending on your requirements. We also have five new higher end CBs in development and would guess partially because of this new functionality. This is ideal as you can use the hook if a power user to basically do anything you want. Run Wine or Steam or Docker or pretty much anything as you have the vector you needed. But then also can be used by a new user as the approach is basically just a click. Also we should get instant GNU/Linux applications. Container comes down, spins up, do what you need, goes away. "Here are five high-end Chromebooks in development to challenge the Pixelbook" https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixelbook-alternative-high-end-chromebooks/ https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixelbook-alternative-...

nickjj 8y ago
> You lose the security when using GalliumOS. Depends on who is using it. For me (and I imagine most developers), it's not losing security. It's allowing us to set up a proper Linux development environment with no wasted resources or hacks. It's no less secure than installing xubuntu or Ubuntu on a different device.
- jacksmith21006 8y ago
  Every user losses the security. Difference is some are more careful than others. But I am old, and should know better, but still run into things and much prefer something that has first class security. But then also to get to do whatever I want on a machine AND have the security to me is ideal. I have used Crouton for years and this will be far better. Love the approach Google has taken and keeping security first and center. BTW, what I like about this approach is the hacks are no longer necessary. No need to use Termux or GNURoot with a fake chroot. No need to put in developer mode any longer to use Crouton. This is ideal for our High school for teaching AP CS 1 and 2.
  - curioussavage 8y ago
    You know what is a huge security loss? Being forced to use your email password to log into your computer. Your stinking email account! The keys to the kingdom these days. Responses from google forum - “google is really good at protecting your account”, “oh just use two factor or yubikey” and other stuff that the average joe is NOT going to do. How many chromebook users out there probably have 4 letter passwords? Incentivizing people to use crappy passwords for their email and making it harder to use password managers sucks. Saying that it doesn’t matter because Google thinks it is pretty good at protecting my account(because they constantly monitor me) also sucks. I would much rather run gallium OS on my chromebook.
    - jacksmith21006 8y ago
      Your email address password is not passing unencrypted so no problem. But key is ChromeOS is going to be far more secure. Plus supports 2FA. Gallium is going to be far less secure. Better to use Crouton. But this new functionality is ideal. Just love it. Get the most secure GNU/Linux solution you can get.
Y_Y 8y ago
Looks like someone's been training an AI to shill on HN. Please post your code, I have ideas for fixes.
- jacksmith21006 8y ago
  Sorry not following? "post your code"? What code?
  - Y_Y 8y ago
    I think you probably did follow, but just didn't like it. I thought your post just read like technobabble and I was being stupid and snide and implying it had been written by a bot with some commercial agenda.
    - jacksmith21006 8y ago
      I thought that might be it but did not seem to make any sense to say "post your code". But what was inaccurate with my post? Or is this attack the poster?
      - Y_Y 8y ago
        Your claims all seem to be vague or opinion, so they can't be factually inaccurate. I'm a native English speaker and hard a very hard time understanding what you were trying to say. I don't mean to attack you, but I didn't think it was a good post, because it didn't make any clear or substantiated claims and so was not informative to me.
        jacksmith21006 8y ago
        Vague? Then ask questions and can explain. Opinion? What is opinion? "so they can't be factually inaccurate. " What is factually inaccurate specifically? Do you not understand why what Google has done is more secure than Gallium? That one is easy. Inaccurate you can now walk into a Best Buy and buy a machine that supports GNU/Linux out of the box? Also an easy one. I purchased my PB from Bestbuy.
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nickjj 8y ago

> You lose the security when using GalliumOS. Depends on who is using it. For me (and I imagine most developers), it's not losing security. It's allowing us to set up a proper Linux development environment with no wasted resources or hacks. It's no less secure than installing xubuntu or Ubuntu on a different device.

jacksmith21006 8y ago
Every user losses the security. Difference is some are more careful than others. But I am old, and should know better, but still run into things and much prefer something that has first class security. But then also to get to do whatever I want on a machine AND have the security to me is ideal. I have used Crouton for years and this will be far better. Love the approach Google has taken and keeping security first and center. BTW, what I like about this approach is the hacks are no longer necessary. No need to use Termux or GNURoot with a fake chroot. No need to put in developer mode any longer to use Crouton. This is ideal for our High school for teaching AP CS 1 and 2.
- curioussavage 8y ago
  You know what is a huge security loss? Being forced to use your email password to log into your computer. Your stinking email account! The keys to the kingdom these days. Responses from google forum - “google is really good at protecting your account”, “oh just use two factor or yubikey” and other stuff that the average joe is NOT going to do. How many chromebook users out there probably have 4 letter passwords? Incentivizing people to use crappy passwords for their email and making it harder to use password managers sucks. Saying that it doesn’t matter because Google thinks it is pretty good at protecting my account(because they constantly monitor me) also sucks. I would much rather run gallium OS on my chromebook.
  - jacksmith21006 8y ago
    Your email address password is not passing unencrypted so no problem. But key is ChromeOS is going to be far more secure. Plus supports 2FA. Gallium is going to be far less secure. Better to use Crouton. But this new functionality is ideal. Just love it. Get the most secure GNU/Linux solution you can get.

Y_Y 8y ago

Looks like someone's been training an AI to shill on HN. Please post your code, I have ideas for fixes.

jacksmith21006 8y ago
Sorry not following? "post your code"? What code?
- Y_Y 8y ago
  I think you probably did follow, but just didn't like it. I thought your post just read like technobabble and I was being stupid and snide and implying it had been written by a bot with some commercial agenda.
  - jacksmith21006 8y ago
    I thought that might be it but did not seem to make any sense to say "post your code". But what was inaccurate with my post? Or is this attack the poster?
    - Y_Y 8y ago
      Your claims all seem to be vague or opinion, so they can't be factually inaccurate. I'm a native English speaker and hard a very hard time understanding what you were trying to say. I don't mean to attack you, but I didn't think it was a good post, because it didn't make any clear or substantiated claims and so was not informative to me.
      - jacksmith21006 8y ago
        Vague? Then ask questions and can explain. Opinion? What is opinion? "so they can't be factually inaccurate. " What is factually inaccurate specifically? Do you not understand why what Google has done is more secure than Gallium? That one is easy. Inaccurate you can now walk into a Best Buy and buy a machine that supports GNU/Linux out of the box? Also an easy one. I purchased my PB from Bestbuy.

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