I'll reiterate one more time. Being very new to the Ruby community, I can't speak for everyone, although I suspect that I might. Out of the box, Rails has been

I'll reiterate one more time. Being very new to the Ruby community, I can't speak for everyone, although I suspect that I might. Out of the box, Rails has been more pleasant for me to use than my favorite Python libraries from every category combined together via months of tedious integration and fine-tuning. I'm not comparing a framework to a language. I am comparing an ecosystem to another ecosystem. I'm comparing Rails to what I have managed to hobble together from the best libraries available to Python developers. I think that the tendency of Ruby developers to make this framework vs. language comparison speaks volumes about the particular whole formed of many parts. Python's ecosystem has many capable parts. I feel that it is lacking a cohesive hole. And I don't think it is due to lack of trying, just look at how many Python frameworks are out there!