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It’s not surprising that anarchism is ignored and vilified - democracy is a threat to any power system. It’s quite telling that the western democracies, the fas

It’s not surprising that anarchism is ignored and vilified - democracy is a threat to any power system. It’s quite telling that the western democracies, the fascist states and the Soviet Union all allied against the revolution in Spain.

baud147258 9y ago
Well, it was a civil war in Spain, not just a revolution. And all the countries you cited supported one side or the other.
m0skit0 9y ago
Stalin did support the Republic against the fascist uprising supported by Hitler and Mussolini. And it was the only country that supported a democratic regime against a blatant fascist military coup.
- chimeracoder 9y ago
  > Stalin did support the Republic against the fascist uprising supported by Hitler and Mussolini. And it was the only country that supported a democratic regime against a blatant fascist military coup. This phrasing implies that supporting a democratic regime (over fascism) was somehow their actual goal, which is hardly the case.
  - m0skit0 9y ago
    My phrasing implied that other democratic regimes didn't care because the republic was too left leaning.
- Synaesthesia 9y ago
  It was a complex war. I think the soviets supported people who subscribed to their ideological beliefs, which they also forced on the republic. Many say they undermined the revolution more than anyone. This is from anarchist histories I’ve read of the Revolution.
  - m0skit0 8y ago
    One could also argue it was the anarchists that undermined the revolution. Yes, it is a complex war, but the Republic bled as much internally as against the fascists.
eeZah7Ux 9y ago
You are making an excellent point. It's worth looking at the political compass https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/axeswithnames.gif https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/axeswithnames.gif to realize that all dictatorships and most of the current "democracies" are very authoritarian.

baud147258 9y ago

Well, it was a civil war in Spain, not just a revolution. And all the countries you cited supported one side or the other.

m0skit0 9y ago

Stalin did support the Republic against the fascist uprising supported by Hitler and Mussolini. And it was the only country that supported a democratic regime against a blatant fascist military coup.

chimeracoder 9y ago
> Stalin did support the Republic against the fascist uprising supported by Hitler and Mussolini. And it was the only country that supported a democratic regime against a blatant fascist military coup. This phrasing implies that supporting a democratic regime (over fascism) was somehow their actual goal, which is hardly the case.
- m0skit0 9y ago
  My phrasing implied that other democratic regimes didn't care because the republic was too left leaning.
Synaesthesia 9y ago
It was a complex war. I think the soviets supported people who subscribed to their ideological beliefs, which they also forced on the republic. Many say they undermined the revolution more than anyone. This is from anarchist histories I’ve read of the Revolution.
- m0skit0 8y ago
  One could also argue it was the anarchists that undermined the revolution. Yes, it is a complex war, but the Republic bled as much internally as against the fascists.

eeZah7Ux 9y ago

You are making an excellent point. It's worth looking at the political compass https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/axeswithnames.gif https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/axeswithnames.gif to realize that all dictatorships and most of the current "democracies" are very authoritarian.