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> The whole thing feels stuck a decade ago. Says the macOS user... did you even get a newer version of bash yet? I heard even Debian stable has a newer bash ve
by grover_hartmann 8y ago
> The whole thing feels stuck a decade ago.
Says the macOS user... did you even get a newer version of bash yet? I heard even Debian stable has a newer bash version than macOS.
- AdamJacobMuller 8y ago`brew install bash` Software is trivial to upgrade and that's a very silly comparison to make.
- grover_hartmann 8y agoYes, FOSS saving a close source platform, what's news? You are completely missing the point, my point was that Apple is so bad of a company that they completely refuse to ship with GPLv3 software, they are nothing but a bunch of immoral fascists. Take take take, but never give anything back. The GNU project did everything right by moving to GPLv3. And last time I checked, brew doesn't work so well when you have multiples users on the same system.
- crispinb 8y ago> they are nothing but a bunch of immoral fascists. Yep. The Apple death count must be nearing that of WWII by now surely.
- grover_hartmann 8y agoIf you cannot see anything immoral in Apple, or if you're unable to see anything immoral/fascist beyond murder and WWII then I'm not sure you're ready to discuss this subject. I suggest you educate yourself on the matter, because judging by your comment, I can clearly see you're ignorant about the subject. https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
- crispinb 8y agoDid Lewis Carroll write you?
- pjmlp 8y agoActually it is FOSS saving FOSS developers using OS X as a Linux replacement for doing Linux development. OS X and iOS developers are pretty fine with the OS tooling.
- grover_hartmann 8y ago> OS X and iOS developers are pretty fine with the OS tooling. That's because they are "fine" with anything Apple does, I guess removing ports wasn't enough for them to see beyond their own stupidity. OS X developers have to be the dumbest of them all, if Apple tells them to jump off a bridge they probably would too. They are blind for a brand.
- pjmlp 8y agoBeing an UNIX is irrelevant for Apple related development, it is just a side effect of being based on NeXTSTEP, which also only used POSIX compatibility as an attempt to take business away from SGI and SUN. If you want UNIX development, without any regard for OS X and iOS, then go sponsor hardware vendors selling Linux and BSD based systems.
- pjmlp 8y agoBash is hardly relevant for actual Apple developers. There are no missing features that would prevent developing Swift and Objective-C applications.
- grover_hartmann 8y agoSure, because Swift and Objective-C applications is all that matters. /s This comment alone proves that Apple developers are a bunch of clueless idiots.
- pjmlp 8y agoNo, we just buy Apple hardware for doing Apple related development, not as a replacement for Linux to do Linux development. If you want to do that buy hardware from Linux vendors like Dell and System76.
- grover_hartmann 8y agoYou shouldn't buy from Apple, it's bad for your freedom. https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
- pjmlp 8y agoOn a past life, about 20 years ago, I was a FOSS zealot of the first GNU wave. Nowadays I use whatever makes business sense.
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- grover_hartmann 8y agoYes, because vendor lock-in and all the bad things that comes from Apple makes perfect business sense. /s