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Doesn't most carriers heavily "compress" the sound, removing all sounds/frequencies that a human can't hear, etc? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2A8q3XIhu0 ht

Doesn't most carriers heavily "compress" the sound, removing all sounds/frequencies that a human can't hear, etc? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2A8q3XIhu0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2A8q3XIhu0

sgt101 8y ago
Yes, and lots of sounds that the human ear can hear but are not used to decode speech. Also the audio is frequently recoded as calls pass from infrastructure to infrastructure. Good times !
tlrobinson 8y ago
Yes, but it could be very subtle and low bandwidth at first, and once both sides were convinced the other was a machine switch to a full speed screeching 56k modem [1]. Or just communicate "hey actually connect to this HTTP/XMPP/whatever address on the internet and we'll continue this from there" 1. Probably a bit slower, I've heard modern VoIP lines don't work well with traditional modems?
- estel 8y ago
  The whole context of Google introducing this functionality was for the 60% of businesses that don't yet have an online presence at all.
  - tlrobinson 8y ago
    Sure, but they should consider the future. That number will only get smaller, especially if Duplex or other services say "we'll handle all your phone and online bookings for you for $SMALL_FEE, and still forward other inquiries to your phone as before".
    - Piskvorrr 8y ago
      [smallprint]...and we'll abruptly shut it down in 18 months.[/smallprint]
- tabs_masterrace 8y ago
  Damn that sounds even more dystopian, can you imaging it "Hello how can I help you? - Hi, beep, I like to reserve a table? - Ok, beep, beep, on second - Mhm-mm beep, beep, sceech, 011000101010...."
  - marpstar 8y ago
    This is basically what 56k modems do, isn't it?
    - andrepd 8y ago
      Indeed it is! https://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html?m=1 https://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-picture...
  - positr0n 8y ago
    Great comic on this: https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3576 https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3576
    - haser_au 8y ago
      This made my day
    - TeMPOraL 8y ago
      Also a great story along very similar lines: http://archive.today/txrAd http://archive.today/txrAd (Archive link because that blog now requires authorization to view for some reason.)
stefan_ 8y ago
So just put it in the hearable spectrum. Phones already make all kinds of sounds that no one under the age of 35 has any clue what they mean or why they are needed, and frankly they aren't.
- ambicapter 8y ago
  beep boop.
- avip 8y ago
  Perfect use case for the endangered fax answering sound.

sgt101 8y ago

Yes, and lots of sounds that the human ear can hear but are not used to decode speech. Also the audio is frequently recoded as calls pass from infrastructure to infrastructure. Good times !

tlrobinson 8y ago

Yes, but it could be very subtle and low bandwidth at first, and once both sides were convinced the other was a machine switch to a full speed screeching 56k modem [1]. Or just communicate "hey actually connect to this HTTP/XMPP/whatever address on the internet and we'll continue this from there" 1. Probably a bit slower, I've heard modern VoIP lines don't work well with traditional modems?

estel 8y ago
The whole context of Google introducing this functionality was for the 60% of businesses that don't yet have an online presence at all.
- tlrobinson 8y ago
  Sure, but they should consider the future. That number will only get smaller, especially if Duplex or other services say "we'll handle all your phone and online bookings for you for $SMALL_FEE, and still forward other inquiries to your phone as before".
  - Piskvorrr 8y ago
    [smallprint]...and we'll abruptly shut it down in 18 months.[/smallprint]
tabs_masterrace 8y ago
Damn that sounds even more dystopian, can you imaging it "Hello how can I help you? - Hi, beep, I like to reserve a table? - Ok, beep, beep, on second - Mhm-mm beep, beep, sceech, 011000101010...."
- marpstar 8y ago
  This is basically what 56k modems do, isn't it?
  - andrepd 8y ago
    Indeed it is! https://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html?m=1 https://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-picture...
- positr0n 8y ago
  Great comic on this: https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3576 https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3576
  - haser_au 8y ago
    This made my day
  - TeMPOraL 8y ago
    Also a great story along very similar lines: http://archive.today/txrAd http://archive.today/txrAd (Archive link because that blog now requires authorization to view for some reason.)

stefan_ 8y ago

So just put it in the hearable spectrum. Phones already make all kinds of sounds that no one under the age of 35 has any clue what they mean or why they are needed, and frankly they aren't.

ambicapter 8y ago
beep boop.
avip 8y ago
Perfect use case for the endangered fax answering sound.