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> If the number of people who visit your site with JavaScript disabled is less than the number of people who visit using the Opera browser, does it really make

> If the number of people who visit your site with JavaScript disabled is less than the number of people who visit using the Opera browser, does it really make sense to add [number of supported browsers] x [JS on | JS off] permutations to your testing workload? If your site doesn't work for people with JS disabled, you're unlikely to see significant traffic from people with JS disabled.

TeMPOraL 8y ago
Also, if you use JavaScript trackers instead of server logs, guess which group won't show on those trackers at all...
- scient 8y ago
  Most trackers have a way to handle non-JS clients by rendering a tracking pixel - a solution that has been out there for a long time now.
  - dredmorbius 8y ago
    The anti-JS crowd also tends to block tracking pixels. E.g., New Relic's tracking beacon.
  - etatoby 8y ago
    Last time I checked, the default embed code provided by Google Analytics (which covers 99% of website stats) was a single script tag.
NetOpWibby 8y ago
I just launched a product last week that solves this very use case (for Express apps): https://chew.sh https://chew.sh. It is VERY much an alpha and a lot of things aren’t working, just the bare minimum.
- etatoby 8y ago
  > requires JavaScript, please enable it to ensure a joyful browsing experience (followed by some horribly formatted content, at least on my phone) Guess which product I will not be buying today?
  - NetOpWibby 8y ago
    Lucky for you I'm not selling anything. Also, like I said, it's in alpha. Almost nothing is working. I just wanted to get it in production so I could start tracking my sites. No worries etatoby, just wanted to share an alternative. EDIT: Thanks for your comment though, I just thought of some ways I can improve usability by using <noscript> to explain why JS is used for something.
    - graysonk 8y ago
      > Lucky for you I'm not selling anything Hmm there is a pretty big "Pricing" section in the middle of the page for me
      - NetOpWibby 8y ago
        Well yeah, when it's done. As in, no time soon.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

Also, if you use JavaScript trackers instead of server logs, guess which group won't show on those trackers at all...

scient 8y ago
Most trackers have a way to handle non-JS clients by rendering a tracking pixel - a solution that has been out there for a long time now.
- dredmorbius 8y ago
  The anti-JS crowd also tends to block tracking pixels. E.g., New Relic's tracking beacon.
- etatoby 8y ago
  Last time I checked, the default embed code provided by Google Analytics (which covers 99% of website stats) was a single script tag.

NetOpWibby 8y ago

I just launched a product last week that solves this very use case (for Express apps): https://chew.sh https://chew.sh. It is VERY much an alpha and a lot of things aren’t working, just the bare minimum.

etatoby 8y ago
> requires JavaScript, please enable it to ensure a joyful browsing experience (followed by some horribly formatted content, at least on my phone) Guess which product I will not be buying today?
- NetOpWibby 8y ago
  Lucky for you I'm not selling anything. Also, like I said, it's in alpha. Almost nothing is working. I just wanted to get it in production so I could start tracking my sites. No worries etatoby, just wanted to share an alternative. EDIT: Thanks for your comment though, I just thought of some ways I can improve usability by using <noscript> to explain why JS is used for something.
  - graysonk 8y ago
    > Lucky for you I'm not selling anything Hmm there is a pretty big "Pricing" section in the middle of the page for me
    - NetOpWibby 8y ago
      Well yeah, when it's done. As in, no time soon.