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I have no evidence to support it, but this article feels like bought and paid for PR.

by valar_m 8y ago

tarr11 8y ago
Because it's in Forbes?
- marnett 8y ago
  Native advertising.
- maxerickson 8y ago
  forbes.com/sites might as well be wordpress.com, it's just some blog. Pretty amazing how little such a big brand is actually worth.
  - koboll 8y ago
    Did you miss "This story appears in the May 31, 2018 issue of Forbes" below the byline of this article?
  - zymhan 8y ago
    Note that the author is actually a Forbes Staff member. It's not _just_ a blog post. But in general, definitely look closely at the forbes.com/sites articles.
ropeadopepope 8y ago
All media is bought and paid for PR. The only question is who's paying for it and why. That's not necessarily a bad thing, either. It's just the way it is.
- jefurii 8y ago
  I wouldn't say that all media is PR specifically, but it's true that all media is bought and paid for by somebody. It might be a giant corporation paying a mechanical turk to write what they want. It might be somebody with the luxury of taking their own time to write. It might be a professional journalist working for a publication that sells ad space to pay its bills, and which doesn't want to piss off ad buyers.
- solipsism 8y ago
  Huh? Plenty of media is created and sold as a commodity. Your average movie is not PR. Nor is your average news story from a reputable news source.
- brightball 8y ago
  That is the truth. I know directly of at least one recent instance where a local news company was not allowed to interview a professional directly related to a story it was airing...because one of their big advertisers wouldn't allow anyone in that field to be interviewed unless it was an affiliate of theirs. I'm being purposely vague there, but even the reporter was really upset about it.
bluelu 8y ago
Indeed. We will be switching away from google to an internal tile server for reasons I won't go into detail for now. Our account manager told us that the pricing of the new Google maps will change with their newly announced platform changes and our current usage would cost us now even less than before. When we asked for an offer from mapbox about a year ago, it was already much more expensive than google. I assume it's going to be even harder for them now to win against google now.
redsparrow 8y ago
Paul Graham's essay on the topic: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
bduerst 8y ago
On Google I/O day, no less. It's targeted to ride the search trends.
Piskvorrr 8y ago
Indeed. Very carefully omits any mention of OpenStreetMap, too.

I have no evidence to support it, but this article feels like bought and paid for PR.

tarr11 8y ago

Because it's in Forbes?

marnett 8y ago
Native advertising.
maxerickson 8y ago
forbes.com/sites might as well be wordpress.com, it's just some blog. Pretty amazing how little such a big brand is actually worth.
- koboll 8y ago
  Did you miss "This story appears in the May 31, 2018 issue of Forbes" below the byline of this article?
- zymhan 8y ago
  Note that the author is actually a Forbes Staff member. It's not _just_ a blog post. But in general, definitely look closely at the forbes.com/sites articles.

ropeadopepope 8y ago

All media is bought and paid for PR. The only question is who's paying for it and why. That's not necessarily a bad thing, either. It's just the way it is.

jefurii 8y ago
I wouldn't say that all media is PR specifically, but it's true that all media is bought and paid for by somebody. It might be a giant corporation paying a mechanical turk to write what they want. It might be somebody with the luxury of taking their own time to write. It might be a professional journalist working for a publication that sells ad space to pay its bills, and which doesn't want to piss off ad buyers.
solipsism 8y ago
Huh? Plenty of media is created and sold as a commodity. Your average movie is not PR. Nor is your average news story from a reputable news source.
brightball 8y ago
That is the truth. I know directly of at least one recent instance where a local news company was not allowed to interview a professional directly related to a story it was airing...because one of their big advertisers wouldn't allow anyone in that field to be interviewed unless it was an affiliate of theirs. I'm being purposely vague there, but even the reporter was really upset about it.

bluelu 8y ago

Indeed. We will be switching away from google to an internal tile server for reasons I won't go into detail for now. Our account manager told us that the pricing of the new Google maps will change with their newly announced platform changes and our current usage would cost us now even less than before. When we asked for an offer from mapbox about a year ago, it was already much more expensive than google. I assume it's going to be even harder for them now to win against google now.

redsparrow 8y ago

Paul Graham's essay on the topic: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html

bduerst 8y ago

On Google I/O day, no less. It's targeted to ride the search trends.

Piskvorrr 8y ago

Indeed. Very carefully omits any mention of OpenStreetMap, too.