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Nutrition is a field, from the science perspective, that does not work in absolutes. It is too complex of a field for us to really pin anything down for populat

Nutrition is a field, from the science perspective, that does not work in absolutes. It is too complex of a field for us to really pin anything down for populations or individuals. That is why we as individuals have to find a way to tune it, ideally with expert input. That is why I take issue with statements like "objectively worse," which is really the only reason I commented in the first place. But I would like to see where you are getting 30g because everything I have seen (we'll include [1] link but my quick googling brought up comparable results) puts sugars, combined complex and simple, at ~40% to 65% of your daily diet. It is often quoted at about ~200g to 300g. Yes, people over-do their sugars, yes people think that eating all the fruit is healthy when in fact it is still a bunch of sugar, but in the end a body with moderate activity needs carbs to break down for quick energy. It would be inefficient for our bodies to go into fat stores or slow-burn protein every time we need energy. [1]https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/carbohydrates/art-20045705 https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-h...

airstrike 8y ago
You’re mixing up sugar and carbs. It’s fine to eat 250g of carbs, though that seems high if you’re trying to be as far from obese as possible without being unhealthy. It’s not fine to eat 250g of sugar. You’ll likely get diabetes. Also not all carbs are made the same. Eating bread is not the same as eating sweet potato, as suprising as that may seem. Few carbs are good for you and you should make a concious decision about which ones to eat. Not to mention everything that usually gets added to carb-heavy food as those tend to be highly industrialized. Due to their convenience factor they’ve effectively replaced home-cooked carbs. But perhaps most importantly, carbs have been showed to be linked to Alzheimer’s Disease though this isn’t yet mainstream knowledge: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15082091/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15082091/ The cynical in me thinks “big food” must be trying really hard to hide this fact from society.
- m-watson 8y ago
  Carbs and sugars are (almost, but obviously with nuances) interchangeable in the way I am using them, from the bio-chem sense. I do see what you are saying and see where this back and forth is coming in. No, there is absolutely no reason to eat a big 250g spoon of table sugar. As for Alzheimer's you are seeing more work around diet in general and the link to aging. It just takes awhile, I don't think it has to be a conspiracy(of course it could be, there is a lot of money in carbs). You are seeing some of these findings move from academia into public consumption reporting [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/the-startling-link-between-sugar-and-alzheimers/551528/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/the-start... [2] https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-health/info-2017/foods-decrease-alzheimers-risk-fd.html https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-health/info-2017/foods-dec... Either way, I think this thread has run its' course. I will probably not respond anymore but I'll leave with this: I agree sugars should also be talked about, we generally consume way too many in a day but I take issue with ranking basic nutritional building blocks because they are all important and we would be in trouble if we took one out. But have a great day, always good to have a little internet back and forth.

airstrike 8y ago

You’re mixing up sugar and carbs. It’s fine to eat 250g of carbs, though that seems high if you’re trying to be as far from obese as possible without being unhealthy. It’s not fine to eat 250g of sugar. You’ll likely get diabetes. Also not all carbs are made the same. Eating bread is not the same as eating sweet potato, as suprising as that may seem. Few carbs are good for you and you should make a concious decision about which ones to eat. Not to mention everything that usually gets added to carb-heavy food as those tend to be highly industrialized. Due to their convenience factor they’ve effectively replaced home-cooked carbs. But perhaps most importantly, carbs have been showed to be linked to Alzheimer’s Disease though this isn’t yet mainstream knowledge: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15082091/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15082091/ The cynical in me thinks “big food” must be trying really hard to hide this fact from society.

m-watson 8y ago
Carbs and sugars are (almost, but obviously with nuances) interchangeable in the way I am using them, from the bio-chem sense. I do see what you are saying and see where this back and forth is coming in. No, there is absolutely no reason to eat a big 250g spoon of table sugar. As for Alzheimer's you are seeing more work around diet in general and the link to aging. It just takes awhile, I don't think it has to be a conspiracy(of course it could be, there is a lot of money in carbs). You are seeing some of these findings move from academia into public consumption reporting [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/the-startling-link-between-sugar-and-alzheimers/551528/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/the-start... [2] https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-health/info-2017/foods-decrease-alzheimers-risk-fd.html https://www.aarp.org/health/brain-health/info-2017/foods-dec... Either way, I think this thread has run its' course. I will probably not respond anymore but I'll leave with this: I agree sugars should also be talked about, we generally consume way too many in a day but I take issue with ranking basic nutritional building blocks because they are all important and we would be in trouble if we took one out. But have a great day, always good to have a little internet back and forth.