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Excellent idea! Just rename it political-libc for all the people who want politics mixed in with their C library.

by readme 8y ago

favorited 8y ago
You realize it's the current version of glibc which has the political joke? The patch that RMS is opposing here removed a political reference from the docs.
johannes1234321 8y ago
The FSF and its GNU project are a political endeavor. For a less-political (non-political doesn't exist) libc one might fork into linux-libc or similar. (I'm not saying that's appropriate thing to do, as I'm just a lurker enjoying the free work by others in glibc's regard, but wanted to make the point)
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > The FSF and its GNU project are a political endeavor. But neither has anything about abortion policy in it's public declaration of goals. So, while some political messages might make sense in GNU technical docs, I don't see why a warning making an oblique reference to the Mexico City policy is not only acceptable but so critical that central leadership needs to overrule the specific project's maintainers to preserve it.
- throwajay87492 8y ago
  These constant attempts to assert that "everything is political" are getting really old. All people have the capacity to be political. Nothing else is. I wish I could understand who taught you people that insistence of stupid horseshit is the key to achieving your goals.
  - johannes1234321 8y ago
    First of all I didn't say that "everything is political" but that in each organisation there is a degree of politics. Maybe the issue is in the word "politics" - this is not about left vs right, but social collaboration. Some people like each other more than others, some are more trustworthy to others and often the way I propose a change and whom I talk to has impact of the change being accepted - those are politics. Also technical decisions have an impact on different people and in subtle ways impact users (i.e. if a kernel switches to a high-res framebuffer mode to print boot messages and developers assume they have the width for formatting messages this impacts visually impaired people, willingly or not -- just made the example up to show subtle things) Politics aren't bad and are an effect of different people being present in the same space, while of course there is a difference between FSF/GNU/RMS with a strong focus on a political mission and some other projects primarily focussing on a technical mission.

Excellent idea! Just rename it political-libc for all the people who want politics mixed in with their C library.

by readme 8y ago

Excellent idea! Just rename it political-libc for all the people who want politics mixed in with their C library.

You realize it's the current version of glibc which has the political joke? The patch that RMS is opposing here removed a political reference from the docs.

johannes1234321 8y ago

The FSF and its GNU project are a political endeavor. For a less-political (non-political doesn't exist) libc one might fork into linux-libc or similar. (I'm not saying that's appropriate thing to do, as I'm just a lurker enjoying the free work by others in glibc's regard, but wanted to make the point)

dragonwriter 8y ago
> The FSF and its GNU project are a political endeavor. But neither has anything about abortion policy in it's public declaration of goals. So, while some political messages might make sense in GNU technical docs, I don't see why a warning making an oblique reference to the Mexico City policy is not only acceptable but so critical that central leadership needs to overrule the specific project's maintainers to preserve it.
throwajay87492 8y ago
These constant attempts to assert that "everything is political" are getting really old. All people have the capacity to be political. Nothing else is. I wish I could understand who taught you people that insistence of stupid horseshit is the key to achieving your goals.
- johannes1234321 8y ago
  First of all I didn't say that "everything is political" but that in each organisation there is a degree of politics. Maybe the issue is in the word "politics" - this is not about left vs right, but social collaboration. Some people like each other more than others, some are more trustworthy to others and often the way I propose a change and whom I talk to has impact of the change being accepted - those are politics. Also technical decisions have an impact on different people and in subtle ways impact users (i.e. if a kernel switches to a high-res framebuffer mode to print boot messages and developers assume they have the width for formatting messages this impacts visually impaired people, willingly or not -- just made the example up to show subtle things) Politics aren't bad and are an effect of different people being present in the same space, while of course there is a difference between FSF/GNU/RMS with a strong focus on a political mission and some other projects primarily focussing on a technical mission.