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Townhall is a well-known conservative website. Are you surprised they are running articles arguing for conservative points? Or do you think those headlines are

Townhall is a well-known conservative website. Are you surprised they are running articles arguing for conservative points? Or do you think those headlines are outside the bounds of reasonable discourse?

eunoia 8y ago
> Townhall is a well-known conservative website. I didn't know that, and apparently neither did the poster of that link. > Or do you think those headlines are outside the bounds of reasonable discourse? My only intention was to point out potential bias. Now that you mention it though, no, I don't think a headline like "Liberalism Must Be Destroyed" is making a good faith effort to start a reasonable discourse. I think it's pandering to the kind of destructive tribal political think that has rendered productive political discourse basically nonexistent these days. And I would say the same if the title was "Conservatism Must Be Destroyed" Edit: I read the articles. Those headlines might honestly be understating the level of bias. I don't event want to sully HN with that level of pathological tribal political nonsense. For example, regardless of your opinion on guns (I own one personally), to pretend like this is what healthy political discourse looks like is completely unacceptable. > Ignore the liberals who want an America where you disarmed and defenseless against the tyranny they dream of imposing. Ignore the hateful teens MSNBCNN spotlight and the Hollywood virtue signalers who harangue you from behind armed guards. Ignore the blue falcon Democrat vets who think their tour in Iraq means they earned some sort of moral authority to dictate to you what guns you do and don’t need. If that’s how it works, I did 27 years, so doesn’t my guidance that you should totally buy an AR-15 count? No? Oh, right – their vetsplaining is just manipulative liberal baloney. > Instead, be guided by science. The science, supported by experience, make clear what you need to do. Buy guns and ammunition. Get an AR-15. > Gee, why do liberals hate science so much?
- stcredzero 8y ago
  no, I don't think a headline like "Liberalism Must Be Destroyed" is making a good faith effort to start a reasonable discourse. Funny, but I've seen such headlines from the Far Left directed at centrist liberals!
wilsonnb 8y ago
I'm not the parent commenter, but I decided to read the one about science compelling me to purchase an assault rifle. It's mostly fear mongering under the pretext of "science" by using a medium article that attempts to estimate the likelihood of a group attempting to overthrow the US government based on the fact that two "overthrows" have been attempted (Revolutionary and Civil wars). It also has a good amount of liberal bashing and partly through it we get to the real reason it was written which was to plug the authors book. The summary on Amazon is as follows: "America’s growing political and cultural divisions have finally split the United States apart. Now, as the former blue states begin to collapse under the dead weight of their politically correct tyranny, a lethal operative haunted by his violent past undertakes one last mission to infiltrate and take out his target in the nightmarish city of Los Angeles, deep in the heart of the People’s Republic of North America" Basically the author is trying to scare me, justify those fears with "science", give me an enemy to focus my fear on, and then sell me a book which will both make the author money and give me the satisfaction of living out a fantasy scenario in which all of my fears were correct and I can feel like a good guy. In summary, I would say that this article is far outside the bounds of reasonable discourse and should not be read by anybody.
lev99 8y ago
This is my first encounter with Townhall. I am embarrassed to cite a publication with a blatant political agenda without specifically commenting on it's agenda. This is specifically true because I provided a summary which talks about race and intelligence, which is a socially taboo subject.

eunoia 8y ago

> Townhall is a well-known conservative website. I didn't know that, and apparently neither did the poster of that link. > Or do you think those headlines are outside the bounds of reasonable discourse? My only intention was to point out potential bias. Now that you mention it though, no, I don't think a headline like "Liberalism Must Be Destroyed" is making a good faith effort to start a reasonable discourse. I think it's pandering to the kind of destructive tribal political think that has rendered productive political discourse basically nonexistent these days. And I would say the same if the title was "Conservatism Must Be Destroyed" Edit: I read the articles. Those headlines might honestly be understating the level of bias. I don't event want to sully HN with that level of pathological tribal political nonsense. For example, regardless of your opinion on guns (I own one personally), to pretend like this is what healthy political discourse looks like is completely unacceptable. > Ignore the liberals who want an America where you disarmed and defenseless against the tyranny they dream of imposing. Ignore the hateful teens MSNBCNN spotlight and the Hollywood virtue signalers who harangue you from behind armed guards. Ignore the blue falcon Democrat vets who think their tour in Iraq means they earned some sort of moral authority to dictate to you what guns you do and don’t need. If that’s how it works, I did 27 years, so doesn’t my guidance that you should totally buy an AR-15 count? No? Oh, right – their vetsplaining is just manipulative liberal baloney. > Instead, be guided by science. The science, supported by experience, make clear what you need to do. Buy guns and ammunition. Get an AR-15. > Gee, why do liberals hate science so much?

stcredzero 8y ago
no, I don't think a headline like "Liberalism Must Be Destroyed" is making a good faith effort to start a reasonable discourse. Funny, but I've seen such headlines from the Far Left directed at centrist liberals!

wilsonnb 8y ago

I'm not the parent commenter, but I decided to read the one about science compelling me to purchase an assault rifle. It's mostly fear mongering under the pretext of "science" by using a medium article that attempts to estimate the likelihood of a group attempting to overthrow the US government based on the fact that two "overthrows" have been attempted (Revolutionary and Civil wars). It also has a good amount of liberal bashing and partly through it we get to the real reason it was written which was to plug the authors book. The summary on Amazon is as follows: "America’s growing political and cultural divisions have finally split the United States apart. Now, as the former blue states begin to collapse under the dead weight of their politically correct tyranny, a lethal operative haunted by his violent past undertakes one last mission to infiltrate and take out his target in the nightmarish city of Los Angeles, deep in the heart of the People’s Republic of North America" Basically the author is trying to scare me, justify those fears with "science", give me an enemy to focus my fear on, and then sell me a book which will both make the author money and give me the satisfaction of living out a fantasy scenario in which all of my fears were correct and I can feel like a good guy. In summary, I would say that this article is far outside the bounds of reasonable discourse and should not be read by anybody.

lev99 8y ago

This is my first encounter with Townhall. I am embarrassed to cite a publication with a blatant political agenda without specifically commenting on it's agenda. This is specifically true because I provided a summary which talks about race and intelligence, which is a socially taboo subject.