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They could've really saved themselves some grief is they'd been far more explicit about saying that it's Alpha and months from being production ready. All this

by msy 16y ago

They could've really saved themselves some grief is they'd been far more explicit about saying that it's Alpha and months from being production ready. All this 'there's bugs! omfg!' hoo-ha could've been headed off at the pass

jlgbecom 16y ago
They could have saved themselves some grief if they didn't over-promise in order to get money for a project before they had a single line of code.
- thinkalone 16y ago
  A perfect storm of backlash against Facebook's privacy issues combined with major media coverage thrust them into the spotlight - their original ambitions for the project and fundraising goal of $10,000 were set before that happened. By no means do I see that as "over-promising in order to get money."
  - jlgbecom 16y ago
    Even asking for $10,000 was major hubris that made me skeptical they were up to the task. But they could have been more honest about their capabilities, timeline, roadmap, etc. in order to put things into perspective and bring the hype down a notch. They most definitely over-promised, even if they had only received the original $10k
twymer 16y ago
I think there's a big difference between "omfg bugs" and "The bottom line is currently there is nothing that you cannot do to someone's Diaspora account, absolutely nothing" from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/diaspora_pre_alpha_landmines/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/diaspora_pre_alpha_l...
- msy 16y ago
  Not really, in fact that article was exactly what I was thinking of, reading it it'd be easy to get the impression they were talking about production software after the first sentence. Bugs are fixable and I haven't found any serious design or protocol mistakes, nor seen anyone else point any out. Given that, I'd say they're doing pretty damn well.
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    Yes, there are: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1699782 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1699782
    - kenjackson 16y ago
      Without more details its hard to tell how big of an issue this is. I've been brought in on projects to fix security in the past, and in many cases, after thorough design and code review, we crafted up a modified design and implemented it in a week. And these were in substantially larger systems. With that said, I haven't looked at the code, so maybe the issue is more fundamental than that, but I haven't seen evidence of that yet.

by msy 16y ago

jlgbecom 16y ago

They could have saved themselves some grief if they didn't over-promise in order to get money for a project before they had a single line of code.

thinkalone 16y ago
A perfect storm of backlash against Facebook's privacy issues combined with major media coverage thrust them into the spotlight - their original ambitions for the project and fundraising goal of $10,000 were set before that happened. By no means do I see that as "over-promising in order to get money."
- jlgbecom 16y ago
  Even asking for $10,000 was major hubris that made me skeptical they were up to the task. But they could have been more honest about their capabilities, timeline, roadmap, etc. in order to put things into perspective and bring the hype down a notch. They most definitely over-promised, even if they had only received the original $10k

twymer 16y ago

I think there's a big difference between "omfg bugs" and "The bottom line is currently there is nothing that you cannot do to someone's Diaspora account, absolutely nothing" from http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/diaspora_pre_alpha_landmines/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/16/diaspora_pre_alpha_l...

msy 16y ago
Not really, in fact that article was exactly what I was thinking of, reading it it'd be easy to get the impression they were talking about production software after the first sentence. Bugs are fixable and I haven't found any serious design or protocol mistakes, nor seen anyone else point any out. Given that, I'd say they're doing pretty damn well.
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  Yes, there are: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1699782 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1699782
  - kenjackson 16y ago
    Without more details its hard to tell how big of an issue this is. I've been brought in on projects to fix security in the past, and in many cases, after thorough design and code review, we crafted up a modified design and implemented it in a week. And these were in substantially larger systems. With that said, I haven't looked at the code, so maybe the issue is more fundamental than that, but I haven't seen evidence of that yet.