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Sure. You be the politician who does that in NYC. And good luck on your next election. It's not going to happen.

dahart 9y ago
I'm not running for office in NYC, and your sarcasm seems to indicate you didn't read past the first sentence of my comment. Jaywalking was @Sangermaine's straw man issue, not mine. I was thinking more about speeding and aggressive driving than about what pedestrians do. Your comment seems to indicate you might not know how traffic laws are made or enforced. They are rarely touched by elected officials. I honestly don't know why I'm getting such vigorous push-back here. My original comment was about safety and nothing more. People hate speeding and seat-belt laws too, yet it's a fact that lower speed limits and mandatory seat-belts save lives.
- isostatic 9y ago
  > yet it's a fact that lower speed limits and mandatory seat-belts save lives. Near where I live there was a bridge that lorrys kept getting stuck under, and the local council were very confused. Then measured it, and found the warning sign wasn't right -- it said 15' but it should actually have been 14'. They changed the sign, and the accidents reduced dramatically. Having a lower limit reduced accidents. Unfortunatly someone looked at the statistics and thought "we're still getting accidents. Last time reducing the sign on the bridge by 1' caused them to go down, lets reduce it further and save even more lives!" So the sign was reduced to saying 10'. And accidents went up because people ignored the signs. Lower speed limits may save lives in some circumstances, but in the UK the safest roads are the fastest roads, which seems to contradict your statement. If you put a 30mph limit on the motorway, it will cost more lives 1) It would be ignored by many, so difference in speeds will be higher 2) People would route down more dangerous back roads rather than staying on the safest roads 3) The extra time spent on the motorway has a cost too. The average life is say 40 million minutes long. If your speed limit adds 40 minutes to 1 million people's day, that's 1 life a day you're costing You could argue that we should stop all vehicles, but then the economy collapses and you end up with civil war as we can't support this population level with an agrarian society

I'm not running for office in NYC, and your sarcasm seems to indicate you didn't read past the first sentence of my comment. Jaywalking was @Sangermaine's straw man issue, not mine. I was thinking more about speeding and aggressive driving than about what pedestrians do. Your comment seems to indicate you might not know how traffic laws are made or enforced. They are rarely touched by elected officials. I honestly don't know why I'm getting such vigorous push-back here. My original comment was about safety and nothing more. People hate speeding and seat-belt laws too, yet it's a fact that lower speed limits and mandatory seat-belts save lives.

isostatic 9y ago
> yet it's a fact that lower speed limits and mandatory seat-belts save lives. Near where I live there was a bridge that lorrys kept getting stuck under, and the local council were very confused. Then measured it, and found the warning sign wasn't right -- it said 15' but it should actually have been 14'. They changed the sign, and the accidents reduced dramatically. Having a lower limit reduced accidents. Unfortunatly someone looked at the statistics and thought "we're still getting accidents. Last time reducing the sign on the bridge by 1' caused them to go down, lets reduce it further and save even more lives!" So the sign was reduced to saying 10'. And accidents went up because people ignored the signs. Lower speed limits may save lives in some circumstances, but in the UK the safest roads are the fastest roads, which seems to contradict your statement. If you put a 30mph limit on the motorway, it will cost more lives 1) It would be ignored by many, so difference in speeds will be higher 2) People would route down more dangerous back roads rather than staying on the safest roads 3) The extra time spent on the motorway has a cost too. The average life is say 40 million minutes long. If your speed limit adds 40 minutes to 1 million people's day, that's 1 life a day you're costing You could argue that we should stop all vehicles, but then the economy collapses and you end up with civil war as we can't support this population level with an agrarian society