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What's interesting is that there is some evidence that the Brahmi script itself is descended from some variant of Aramaic. The jury is still out among experts w

What's interesting is that there is some evidence that the Brahmi script itself is descended from some variant of Aramaic. The jury is still out among experts whether or not this is the case. The moral of this is that human history is not as easily partitioned as people would like. (Before I get accused of being anti-India, I'd like to make it clear that I'm Indian)

thevardanian 9y ago
You maybe an Indian, but you are no Historian. As such the same logic can be applied to the term "West" or "Western Civilization". While no single civilization, or people create anything original, there are definitely histories of a people, and therefore the accusation of borrowing, using, or obtaining some outside source of inspiration doesn't preclude that people from their own history. While you are Indian, I often feel that many Indians also tend to lack also unfortunately basic understanding of Indian history, perhaps it's the incessant cultural demand to pursue other subject, so far as to even claim that there's no such thing as "Indian" history, but rather merely the history of different people in a region arbitrarily created by the British. I'm not accusing you of that, but simply pointing that being Indian doesn't shield you from the accusation of either being "anti-India" or lack of knowledge.
- Ar-Curunir 9y ago
  In this case, I'm not supporting any particular ideology; merely stating a hypothesis that is currently under contention: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmi_script#Semitic_model_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmi_script#Semitic_model_hy...
  - thevardanian 9y ago
    Again, I'm not refuting your claim, merely saying that doesn't preclude, or deny the claim you're responding to. History, while complex, and civilizations more points on a spectrum, than a closed system, doesn't prevent or deny the claim of a civilization claiming a unique, distinct, and separate identity that is used to claim the products of a society. Nothing is original. If that's you're claim then it's not a valid argument, and doesn't really address the situation other introduce some existentially reductive platitudes.
KSS42 9y ago
Ar-Curunir = Lord of the Cunning Arts?
- Ar-Curunir 9y ago
  No, it's a LoTR reference
  - KSS42 9y ago
    As I understand "Ar" means King or Lord in Adunaic. Curunir(aka Saruman in Westron, Curomo in Quenya) means "man of cunning arts" or "man of skills". It's an odd combination to have Adunaic and Sindarin in such a name. Maybe it should be Tar-Curunir or Ar-Saruman? http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/King_of_N%C3%BAmenor http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/King_of_N%C3%BAmenor
8bitsrule 9y ago
That reminds me, Alexander carved a path to the India region c. 300BCE, I wonder what kind of cross-fertilization that brought with it. (Much as I like history ... now, not when I was young, there's so much of it!)

thevardanian 9y ago

You maybe an Indian, but you are no Historian. As such the same logic can be applied to the term "West" or "Western Civilization". While no single civilization, or people create anything original, there are definitely histories of a people, and therefore the accusation of borrowing, using, or obtaining some outside source of inspiration doesn't preclude that people from their own history. While you are Indian, I often feel that many Indians also tend to lack also unfortunately basic understanding of Indian history, perhaps it's the incessant cultural demand to pursue other subject, so far as to even claim that there's no such thing as "Indian" history, but rather merely the history of different people in a region arbitrarily created by the British. I'm not accusing you of that, but simply pointing that being Indian doesn't shield you from the accusation of either being "anti-India" or lack of knowledge.

Ar-Curunir 9y ago
In this case, I'm not supporting any particular ideology; merely stating a hypothesis that is currently under contention: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmi_script#Semitic_model_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmi_script#Semitic_model_hy...
- thevardanian 9y ago
  Again, I'm not refuting your claim, merely saying that doesn't preclude, or deny the claim you're responding to. History, while complex, and civilizations more points on a spectrum, than a closed system, doesn't prevent or deny the claim of a civilization claiming a unique, distinct, and separate identity that is used to claim the products of a society. Nothing is original. If that's you're claim then it's not a valid argument, and doesn't really address the situation other introduce some existentially reductive platitudes.

KSS42 9y ago

Ar-Curunir = Lord of the Cunning Arts?

Ar-Curunir 9y ago
No, it's a LoTR reference
- KSS42 9y ago
  As I understand "Ar" means King or Lord in Adunaic. Curunir(aka Saruman in Westron, Curomo in Quenya) means "man of cunning arts" or "man of skills". It's an odd combination to have Adunaic and Sindarin in such a name. Maybe it should be Tar-Curunir or Ar-Saruman? http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/King_of_N%C3%BAmenor http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/King_of_N%C3%BAmenor

8bitsrule 9y ago

That reminds me, Alexander carved a path to the India region c. 300BCE, I wonder what kind of cross-fertilization that brought with it. (Much as I like history ... now, not when I was young, there's so much of it!)