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That short article is heavy on opinion and light on substance. It leaves me with the sensation of social justice warrior.
by austincheney 9y ago
That short article is heavy on opinion and light on substance. It leaves me with the sensation of social justice warrior.
- tathougies 9y agoWhat exactly is wrong with fighting for social justice? If you’re going to resort to name calling at least choose a label that’s actually bad
- UnpossibleJim 9y agoThe problem with it, is that it lacks any and all due process. It's the same process that leads to lynch mobs and witch hunts. Its other names are mob rule, mob justice and vigilantism.
- iron0013 9y agoWasn't aware that "SJWs" were hanging people from trees and burning them at the stake, thanks for the information
- UnpossibleJim 9y agoAntifa... I think that's how it's spelled, anyways. Short for Anti-Fascist. A radical extension of the "SJW" logic, if you will. Any ideology, taken to the extreme, is ridiculous.
- iron0013 9y agoI wasn't aware that antifa was hanging people from trees and burning them at the stake. I myself am anti-fascist, and most people I know are also against fascism--aren't you? However, anyone can easily find many, many, many examples of right-wing extremists in the United States hanging, burning, and committing other atrocities. Hm, weird, it's almost as if both sides are not equivalent, like one is much worse than the other...
- UnpossibleJim 9y agoBeing purposefully obtuse is, as always, charming. I'm sure you liven up any debate and bring new information to light. Thanks so much for helping me see that I was wasting my time with this conversation..... I guess you win?
- iron0013 9y agoPlease don't troll and name-call, we all come to this forum for open and productive debate.
- tathougies 9y agoI mean... no one has a right to due process in media and public perception, only in government dealings. Only a repressive, fascist society would attempt to enforce a guarantee of 'due process' in public perception. I hope that day never comes in America, but given how liberally some people seem to take protection of speech and due process, I worry we may be closer now than ever.
- austincheney 9y agoCould you please be more specific as to your offense? I am not sure of the nature of your criticism.
- iron0013 9y agoWhat you just said does not make sense. Please rephrase and try again.
- austincheney 9y agoThat is basically what I said.
- iron0013 9y agoWhat you just said does not make sense. Please rephrase and try again.
- tathougies 9y agoCalling someone a 'social justice warrior' in order to (presumably) cause insult is like calling someone 'stunningly gorgeous' to offend them.
- austincheney 9y agoI phrased it in such a way to specifically avoid a statement of attack by calling it my personal feeling and further more I did not direct that description at any person but in response to the written article. In this regard I am thinking it is the label that people find offensive rather than the context to which that label is used. Please correct me if I am wrong here. If every use of the term social justice warrior is immediately offensive then I won't use it again.
- rhcom2 9y agoIt's a pejorative. > Social justice warrior (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism,[1][2] as well as identity politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior
- Analemma_ 9y agoIf you're not already convinced that the term "social justice warrior" is now devoid of meaning, note this comment. I don't want to support a theocratic regime where homosexuality is punishable by death and criticizing the government or Islam is a criminal offense enforced by secret police, so I'm one of the SJWs now?
- austincheney 9y agoI did not see any such evidence of MIT asking for your, or anybody else's, support though. The article just looked like an opinion calling for a boycott. https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/Avoiding_Trolls.md#social-justice-warrior https://github.com/prettydiff/wisdom/blob/master/Avoiding_Tr... > so I'm one of the SJWs now? Please do not try to troll me. The article and these comments are not about you. I am not attacking you (or anybody else).
- iron0013 9y agoPlease do not accuse others of trolling.
- austincheney 9y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question Please review the part of the comment I quoted. It is essentially an ad hominem in rhetorical question form. Attacks in any form are unfortunate. Pointing to and asking for the attack to terminate directly and politely is a generally preferred response, but if this is unwelcome then next time I will immediately flag the communication for moderator review.
- DoreenMichele 9y agoheavy on opinion It's an editorial. That's generally what they are are: Someone's opinion. It is, in fact, an editorial published in the MIT Faculty Newsletter. A hundred years ago, the only people who would have read it would be MIT faculty. But thanks to the internet, now anyone with internet access can read this editorial. If it were a random person on the internet having a cow about what MIT does as if people at MIT should care about their opinion, okay, fine, sure SJW makes sense as an accusation. But it makes no sense to act like the faculty of MIT are up to something questionable for expressing opinions about how MIT should comport itself. Edit: I mean, it's fine if you want to express your opinion that 'Hey, this is not really HN-worthy.' Maybe that's what you meant. It certainly isn't what you said. Though that inevitably leads to someone quoting the guidelines as to what is appropriate to post here and linking to them and blah blah blah.
- dang 9y agoThis breaks the HN guidelines by being ideological flamebait. Nothing good can come of this, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html