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> Bitcoin will resist inflation and is somewhat out of control of governments or any central authority Can you back this up? From what I can tell, governments

by hudon 8y ago

> Bitcoin will resist inflation and is somewhat out of control of governments or any central authority Can you back this up? From what I can tell, governments can ban mining, shut down exchanges and co-erce developers. If the handful of devs that have commit access to Bitcoin were working for the CIA, would we know? What kind of damage could they do? Eg. Could they introduce consensus bugs without anyone noticing? > Today, people can transfer their wealth as bitcoin across international borders. Again, citation needed. How many Chinese people are doing this? The exchanges are banned, right? So how could your family buy Bitcoin in China? OTC? What's the spread on the OTC market in China versus US market? Is it actually worth it?

pdpi 8y ago
> Can you back this up? The money supply setup for Bitcoin is meant to make the currency deflationary by design. Whether that is successful or not remains to be determined.
gruez 8y ago
>If the handful of devs that have commit access to Bitcoin were working for the CIA, would we know? probably not, unless they're comically incompetent >What kind of damage could they do? Eg. Could they introduce consensus bugs without anyone noticing? not much, considering there are independent implementations, there's no auto-update for clients, and consensus code changes are heavily scrutinized. I'm sure they can ram a PR through if they really wanted, but it's going to be very obvious what's happening.
LargeWu 8y ago
> From what I can tell, governments can ban mining, shut down exchanges and co-erce developers. Cutting off exchanges from financial institutions will likely be the primary way the government attacks cryptocurrencies. Just look at what happened to online gambling 10 years ago. Online poker and sports gambling were booming. What the US did was prevent banking companies from doing business from gambling companies or intermediaries (e.g. Neteller). Basically overnight, online gambling became a shell of what it was previously. Sure there are still ways around it, but it's enough of a hassle that only the most die-hard players are going to find it worth it. It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to apply the same strategies to crypto. If financial institutions are prevented from doing business with Bitcoin, et al., it's basically game over, as long as its utility is dependent on buying with fiat currency.
- 97s 8y ago
  Exactly this, this is one of the very reasons I have not invested in bitcoin. Anything relating to a technology and banks that hasn't been stamp of approved is a risk. I luckily got the news before it happened and withdrew all my money from neteller and poker sites before they went down, however I had friends that had a lot of money locked up for months.
- strypey 8y ago
  > Just look at what happened to online gambling 10 years ago. And not a moment too soon. Gambling games are designed to be addictive, to bypass the judgment and decision-making centres in people's brains, and take their money. Providing places to go and gamble is one thing; people who walk in there ought to know they will probably lose every bean they walk in there with, so there's informed consent. Putting gambling games that accept real money on the web is effectively like putting coin-operated pokie machine in every living room (and these days every pocket) with a net connection. It's profoundly exploitative and totally deserved to be starved of financial oxygen IMHO.

by hudon 8y ago

pdpi 8y ago

> Can you back this up? The money supply setup for Bitcoin is meant to make the currency deflationary by design. Whether that is successful or not remains to be determined.

gruez 8y ago

>If the handful of devs that have commit access to Bitcoin were working for the CIA, would we know? probably not, unless they're comically incompetent >What kind of damage could they do? Eg. Could they introduce consensus bugs without anyone noticing? not much, considering there are independent implementations, there's no auto-update for clients, and consensus code changes are heavily scrutinized. I'm sure they can ram a PR through if they really wanted, but it's going to be very obvious what's happening.

LargeWu 8y ago

> From what I can tell, governments can ban mining, shut down exchanges and co-erce developers. Cutting off exchanges from financial institutions will likely be the primary way the government attacks cryptocurrencies. Just look at what happened to online gambling 10 years ago. Online poker and sports gambling were booming. What the US did was prevent banking companies from doing business from gambling companies or intermediaries (e.g. Neteller). Basically overnight, online gambling became a shell of what it was previously. Sure there are still ways around it, but it's enough of a hassle that only the most die-hard players are going to find it worth it. It doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to apply the same strategies to crypto. If financial institutions are prevented from doing business with Bitcoin, et al., it's basically game over, as long as its utility is dependent on buying with fiat currency.

97s 8y ago
Exactly this, this is one of the very reasons I have not invested in bitcoin. Anything relating to a technology and banks that hasn't been stamp of approved is a risk. I luckily got the news before it happened and withdrew all my money from neteller and poker sites before they went down, however I had friends that had a lot of money locked up for months.
strypey 8y ago
> Just look at what happened to online gambling 10 years ago. And not a moment too soon. Gambling games are designed to be addictive, to bypass the judgment and decision-making centres in people's brains, and take their money. Providing places to go and gamble is one thing; people who walk in there ought to know they will probably lose every bean they walk in there with, so there's informed consent. Putting gambling games that accept real money on the web is effectively like putting coin-operated pokie machine in every living room (and these days every pocket) with a net connection. It's profoundly exploitative and totally deserved to be starved of financial oxygen IMHO.