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according to wikipedia permethrin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permethrin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permethrin kills bees...

sp332 8y ago
Sure but how many bees are you rubbing up against on a hike?
exhilaration 8y ago
I'm pretty sure it kills all insects, but the bees would have to land on your treated clothing to be affected.
- retSava 8y ago
  One can guess that the primary source of release of the chemical is not by rubbing yourself on things, but from washing your clothes. Thus, it would end up in the oceans.
  - overcast 8y ago
    When the alternative is Lyme Disease? I'm not giving it up. My cousin is severely affected by it right now, in her brain, affecting everything. It's awful.
    - MycroftJones 8y ago
      You can get Japanese Knotweed powder from Montana Farmacy. It helped a friend of mine he is now functional. One or two tablespoons a day.
  - ams6110 8y ago
    It would be so dilute by that point that it would not be worth worrying about.
    - maxerickson 8y ago
      More important than the concentration it degrades fairly quickly in water.
  - loeg 8y ago
    The ocean has a lot of water in it, and it is unlikely to be deadly at such low concentrations.
rileyphone 8y ago
I think it only kills on contact with clothing, so as long as the bees don't run into you they're good.
r00fus 8y ago
Is it part of colony collapse disorder? I see it like antibiotics - local usage probably pales in comparison to agricultural/industrial usage (e.g. sheep dip [1] and neonicotinoid usage [2] ) Yeah, I don't think dousing yourself with insecticide is all that dangerous unless you're doing it constantly like the agricultural examples above. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_dip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_dip [2] https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/study-strengthens-link-between-neonicotinoids-and-collapse-of-honey-bee-colonies/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/study-stren...

sp332 8y ago

Sure but how many bees are you rubbing up against on a hike?

exhilaration 8y ago

I'm pretty sure it kills all insects, but the bees would have to land on your treated clothing to be affected.

retSava 8y ago
One can guess that the primary source of release of the chemical is not by rubbing yourself on things, but from washing your clothes. Thus, it would end up in the oceans.
- overcast 8y ago
  When the alternative is Lyme Disease? I'm not giving it up. My cousin is severely affected by it right now, in her brain, affecting everything. It's awful.
  - MycroftJones 8y ago
    You can get Japanese Knotweed powder from Montana Farmacy. It helped a friend of mine he is now functional. One or two tablespoons a day.
- ams6110 8y ago
  It would be so dilute by that point that it would not be worth worrying about.
  - maxerickson 8y ago
    More important than the concentration it degrades fairly quickly in water.
- loeg 8y ago
  The ocean has a lot of water in it, and it is unlikely to be deadly at such low concentrations.

rileyphone 8y ago

I think it only kills on contact with clothing, so as long as the bees don't run into you they're good.

r00fus 8y ago

Is it part of colony collapse disorder? I see it like antibiotics - local usage probably pales in comparison to agricultural/industrial usage (e.g. sheep dip [1] and neonicotinoid usage [2] ) Yeah, I don't think dousing yourself with insecticide is all that dangerous unless you're doing it constantly like the agricultural examples above. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_dip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_dip [2] https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/study-strengthens-link-between-neonicotinoids-and-collapse-of-honey-bee-colonies/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/study-stren...