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People who say "money isn't everything" are often selling themselves short. You can have all of those things you mentioned, and still get paid a good salary, y

People who say "money isn't everything" are often selling themselves short. You can have all of those things you mentioned, and still get paid a good salary, you just need to find the right company. Too often, I've found that the companies that don't pay well are also filled with terrible employees, simply because the only people left are those that couldn't get a job anywhere else. Also, any manager that says "we're not going to pay you as much as the industry standard for someone with your experience, but hey, you get free soda in the break room and you can work from home a few days a week" is ripping you off. Plain and simple - he figured out that spending a few cents on sugar water lets him save $thousands on salary. You can make six digits plus, and still work from home, and chances are you'll be working with smarter and more talented people because they just won't let any schmuck that can't get a better job stick around.

BigZaphod 16y ago
I'm not sure why you'd assume that being okay with being paid average (or even slightly below) is such a crime. How does this translate to the company being filled with "terrible employees" and the like? I think you're assuming that everyone's goal in life is to just make as much money as possible and damn the risk. It's not. The company I work for has been around for more than 10 years but is very small and fiscally conservative. I've worked for plenty of high paying startups (often from home and coffee shops and doing interesting things) who die in less than half the time this one has been around. In some cases, they died because they were paying above average wages in a misguided attempt to compete for the best of the best. That didn't work out so well. Of the 5 or so startups I've been with in the last few years, only Tapulous remains in business. Sure, they all paid great and I got rid of my debt during those years, but it didn't work out so well for them, did it?
- loewenskind 16y ago
  >In some cases, they died because they were paying above average wages in a misguided attempt to compete for the best of the best. It's not misguided. I've worked in every size of company, from a <5-man startup to fortune 5 and the best developers I've ever worked with were at a mid-sized hedge fund. The work was relatively boring and the management was shockingly bad but the much higher pay brought in some really talented developers. The only reason the place didn't fold was because of the effort of these developers.

BigZaphod 16y ago

I'm not sure why you'd assume that being okay with being paid average (or even slightly below) is such a crime. How does this translate to the company being filled with "terrible employees" and the like? I think you're assuming that everyone's goal in life is to just make as much money as possible and damn the risk. It's not. The company I work for has been around for more than 10 years but is very small and fiscally conservative. I've worked for plenty of high paying startups (often from home and coffee shops and doing interesting things) who die in less than half the time this one has been around. In some cases, they died because they were paying above average wages in a misguided attempt to compete for the best of the best. That didn't work out so well. Of the 5 or so startups I've been with in the last few years, only Tapulous remains in business. Sure, they all paid great and I got rid of my debt during those years, but it didn't work out so well for them, did it?

loewenskind 16y ago
>In some cases, they died because they were paying above average wages in a misguided attempt to compete for the best of the best. It's not misguided. I've worked in every size of company, from a <5-man startup to fortune 5 and the best developers I've ever worked with were at a mid-sized hedge fund. The work was relatively boring and the management was shockingly bad but the much higher pay brought in some really talented developers. The only reason the place didn't fold was because of the effort of these developers.