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yeah, this seems like such an intense thing to do My bet is that they did this to not break Youtube. I mean it makes sense (you don't want video sites to not w

by rtpg 8y ago

yeah, this seems like such an intense thing to do My bet is that they did this to not break Youtube. I mean it makes sense (you don't want video sites to not work) but it's also such a hacky sort of thing I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay.

Vinnl 8y ago
> I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay. ...because then it's not autoplay anymore?
- arijun 8y ago
  "Allow this website to automatically play videos in the future" sounds exactly like autoplay to me. Just not the first time.
  - pryce 8y ago
    I have developed an instinctual reaction to automatically deny permissions like remotely that for any website, and I think most people have. Websites asking for permission to send notifications provokes the same irritation. I think - "I am in the middle of doing something, I don't want to stop and think carefully about permissions for some vague and abstract future encounters, I want the annoying dialog to go away and the site to get out of my way." Notably though: If some dialog like this came up even on a specific site like Youtube where I would almost invariably benefit from granting those permissions, I think there is a huge percentage chance I would knee-jerk deny the permission even when if I stopped to think about it, denying that permission would probably make my user experience worse. Lastly, there is an almost infinitesimal chance of me ever seeking out the settings to re-evaluate my choice on this.
    - Macha 8y ago
      The only websites where I have allowed notifications are discord and slack. I can't see any reason why a news site should be allowed notifications. I know why the site wants to send me notifications - alert on new articles loaded, draw me back in, keep my traffic, just like why they want me to install a native app - but I can't see the benefit to me. Still, if I've managed to allow notifications to slack/discord I'm sure I could figure out allowing autoplay on YouTube/twitch.
    - giovannibajo1 8y ago
      That’s because websites developers haven’t learnt the 5-years-old iOS UX pattern of not asking for privacy permissions the moment the user opens the app but later in a more contextual way. Eg: request for contacts permission when the user is explicitly looking for a friend to share something.
  - tjoff 8y ago
    In incognito mode every time is the first time. No thank you very much, there are way too many "don't show this again" messages to go through already.
- Xunxi 8y ago
  Go to chrome://flags/#autoplay-policy Select `Document user activation is required` Relaunch chrome Alternatively Mute sites that play sound from chrome://settings/content/sound Which ever works for you
Aardwolf 8y ago
> My bet is that they did this to not break Youtube. Which is fine to me. If I go to a website specifically for videos, I want it to autoplay, having to press play is a pointless action. If I go to a website to read articles, I do not want autoplay, and I definitely don't want the video to even follow me around as a tiny minimized window when I scroll down and yes I will close the tab or press back pretty quick if that happens (as I come to the realization the effort to read this article is not worth the gain and realize that I probably was procrastinating anyway to end up on that article in the first place so should do something more productive). If it's interesting enough I will play the video myself, preferably with full control of its time slider myself and preferably without it auto-starting an unrelated different video after this one was done.
- digi_owl 8y ago
  I may go there to view a video, but that does not mean i want it to start playing the moment the page starts loading.
  - Aardwolf 8y ago
    Then the preference differs per person. Optimal for me would be if anyone can create a personal whitelist of websites that may autoplay :) EDIT: or "learn" I guess, let's see how long it takes to learn my simple whitelist and how often it will randomly decide to change :p
  - cdancette 8y ago
    that's why it's learning from your actions
    - maskros 8y ago
      Not the same thing, if going by the article. If I eventually play all the videos, at my own leasure, it will still learn that I play the videos and start playing immediately when the page loads.
- rtpg 8y ago
tim333 8y ago
Killing autoplay wouldn't break Youtube for me. I love Youtube and mostly hate autoplay. What's so bad about clicking a play button?
yAnonymous 8y ago
>I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay. Allow location access? Y/N Allow autoplay? Y/N Safe this password? Y/N Translate website? Y/N This website uses cookies. OK Do you want our newsletter? NO Yeah, I don't know either. Adding to that list sounds like a great idea.
dhimes 8y ago
Things are so bad now that I keep my earphones plugged in but not in my ear. It's easier than trying to quickly hit mute when I'm surprised by a site and disruptive blaring starts.
- mistermann 8y ago
  The problem is, when you do want to listen to something, if you're a 200+ open tabs across 10 windows in FF/Chrome user like me, tracking down the individual tabs that are playing audio is damn near impossible. And please someone don't say I'm doing it wrong....why can't browser programmers expose a list of tabs playing audio, and allow navigation to each from that list? (And the same goes for tabs consuming excessive CPU - in FF, I can see the offending websites in about:performance, and I can close the tab from there, but what if I wanted to navigate to the tab instead?)

by rtpg 8y ago

Vinnl 8y ago

> I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay. ...because then it's not autoplay anymore?

arijun 8y ago
"Allow this website to automatically play videos in the future" sounds exactly like autoplay to me. Just not the first time.
- pryce 8y ago
  I have developed an instinctual reaction to automatically deny permissions like remotely that for any website, and I think most people have. Websites asking for permission to send notifications provokes the same irritation. I think - "I am in the middle of doing something, I don't want to stop and think carefully about permissions for some vague and abstract future encounters, I want the annoying dialog to go away and the site to get out of my way." Notably though: If some dialog like this came up even on a specific site like Youtube where I would almost invariably benefit from granting those permissions, I think there is a huge percentage chance I would knee-jerk deny the permission even when if I stopped to think about it, denying that permission would probably make my user experience worse. Lastly, there is an almost infinitesimal chance of me ever seeking out the settings to re-evaluate my choice on this.
  - Macha 8y ago
    The only websites where I have allowed notifications are discord and slack. I can't see any reason why a news site should be allowed notifications. I know why the site wants to send me notifications - alert on new articles loaded, draw me back in, keep my traffic, just like why they want me to install a native app - but I can't see the benefit to me. Still, if I've managed to allow notifications to slack/discord I'm sure I could figure out allowing autoplay on YouTube/twitch.
  - giovannibajo1 8y ago
    That’s because websites developers haven’t learnt the 5-years-old iOS UX pattern of not asking for privacy permissions the moment the user opens the app but later in a more contextual way. Eg: request for contacts permission when the user is explicitly looking for a friend to share something.
- tjoff 8y ago
  In incognito mode every time is the first time. No thank you very much, there are way too many "don't show this again" messages to go through already.
Xunxi 8y ago
Go to chrome://flags/#autoplay-policy Select `Document user activation is required` Relaunch chrome Alternatively Mute sites that play sound from chrome://settings/content/sound Which ever works for you

Aardwolf 8y ago

> My bet is that they did this to not break Youtube. Which is fine to me. If I go to a website specifically for videos, I want it to autoplay, having to press play is a pointless action. If I go to a website to read articles, I do not want autoplay, and I definitely don't want the video to even follow me around as a tiny minimized window when I scroll down and yes I will close the tab or press back pretty quick if that happens (as I come to the realization the effort to read this article is not worth the gain and realize that I probably was procrastinating anyway to end up on that article in the first place so should do something more productive). If it's interesting enough I will play the video myself, preferably with full control of its time slider myself and preferably without it auto-starting an unrelated different video after this one was done.

digi_owl 8y ago
I may go there to view a video, but that does not mean i want it to start playing the moment the page starts loading.
- Aardwolf 8y ago
  Then the preference differs per person. Optimal for me would be if anyone can create a personal whitelist of websites that may autoplay :) EDIT: or "learn" I guess, let's see how long it takes to learn my simple whitelist and how often it will randomly decide to change :p
- cdancette 8y ago
  that's why it's learning from your actions
  - maskros 8y ago
    Not the same thing, if going by the article. If I eventually play all the videos, at my own leasure, it will still learn that I play the videos and start playing immediately when the page loads.
rtpg 8y ago

tim333 8y ago

Killing autoplay wouldn't break Youtube for me. I love Youtube and mostly hate autoplay. What's so bad about clicking a play button?

yAnonymous 8y ago

>I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay. Allow location access? Y/N Allow autoplay? Y/N Safe this password? Y/N Translate website? Y/N This website uses cookies. OK Do you want our newsletter? NO Yeah, I don't know either. Adding to that list sounds like a great idea.

dhimes 8y ago

Things are so bad now that I keep my earphones plugged in but not in my ear. It's easier than trying to quickly hit mute when I'm surprised by a site and disruptive blaring starts.

mistermann 8y ago
The problem is, when you do want to listen to something, if you're a 200+ open tabs across 10 windows in FF/Chrome user like me, tracking down the individual tabs that are playing audio is damn near impossible. And please someone don't say I'm doing it wrong....why can't browser programmers expose a list of tabs playing audio, and allow navigation to each from that list? (And the same goes for tabs consuming excessive CPU - in FF, I can see the offending websites in about:performance, and I can close the tab from there, but what if I wanted to navigate to the tab instead?)