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Aside from EShell, the shells you use in Emacs (via M-x ansi-term or M-x shell) are whatever you want them to be. I use bash, but I know plenty who use ZSH and

Aside from EShell, the shells you use in Emacs (via M-x ansi-term or M-x shell) are whatever you want them to be. I use bash, but I know plenty who use ZSH and Fish. I also do what OP does: I do as much as I can in Emacs to leverage what Emacs does best. I think you underestimate how much respect your colleagues have for you, Myrmornis. The fact that you are using Emacs/Vim proficiently in most shops nowadays is a badge of respect to a lot of people already. Furthermore, most of Emacs's tooling won't hide you from the harsh realities of knowing how things work.

jwdunne 8y ago
I use zsh and shell mode in Emacs. Knowing how to use a standalone shell, I've found, is synergistic with heavy Emacs use. For one, and the most annoying, if a package update goes wrong, you're 'glove' is back to factory-made and you need to debug it to get it back. Shell helps here. There are things that are easier to do in shell too. Batch processing of files over a whole directory tree is far more comfortable to me - especially binary format files. I have shell scripts too. Automating parts of project development with Emacs is a bad idea since they can't be shared with colleagues who may be using, say, a JetBrains IDE.
- mickeyp 8y ago
  Indeed. Apropos batch processing, I wrote about executing shell commands against marked files in Dired. It may tickle your fancy and help you out---assuming you're not familiar with it already of course! https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/dired-shell-commands-find-xargs-replacement https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/dired-shell-commands-...
  - jwdunne 8y ago
    Oh I didn't realise you were the author of mastering Emacs! I've learned a lot from your writings over the years. Thank you for that :) Yes, the `find ... | xargs` pattern is exactly what I meant. This is awesome, thank you :)

jwdunne 8y ago

I use zsh and shell mode in Emacs. Knowing how to use a standalone shell, I've found, is synergistic with heavy Emacs use. For one, and the most annoying, if a package update goes wrong, you're 'glove' is back to factory-made and you need to debug it to get it back. Shell helps here. There are things that are easier to do in shell too. Batch processing of files over a whole directory tree is far more comfortable to me - especially binary format files. I have shell scripts too. Automating parts of project development with Emacs is a bad idea since they can't be shared with colleagues who may be using, say, a JetBrains IDE.

mickeyp 8y ago
Indeed. Apropos batch processing, I wrote about executing shell commands against marked files in Dired. It may tickle your fancy and help you out---assuming you're not familiar with it already of course! https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/dired-shell-commands-find-xargs-replacement https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/dired-shell-commands-...
- jwdunne 8y ago
  Oh I didn't realise you were the author of mastering Emacs! I've learned a lot from your writings over the years. Thank you for that :) Yes, the `find ... | xargs` pattern is exactly what I meant. This is awesome, thank you :)