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Oh wow I don't remember that story from the book. The maxim "no work, no food" totally reminds me of 1 Thessalonians 3:10.

groby_b 8y ago
1 Thessalionians 3:10 is Night and day we pray most earnestly that we may see you again and supply what is lacking in your faith This might not be the one you're looking for? And if you want to use the bible as a justification for not feeding those who don't work... Matthew 6:36? Matthew 25:35? Isaiah 58:10? Or let's go with the canoncial James 2:14-18, What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
- presidentender 8y ago
  You know as well as I do he's referring to a real verse. The fact that he cited it as 1 Thessalonians instead of 2 Thessalonians doesn't change the fact that there's a line in the New Testament that says "If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat." There is context for it, and I don't consider it an indictment of Christianity, but pretending it's not in there doesn't help your credibility.
  - groby_b 8y ago
    I actually did not know which verse he was referring to, no. So, thank you for pointing me there. If you know of an interpretation of this including the context you refer to, I'd appreciate a pointer very much.
    - triangleman 8y ago
      Yeah I meant 2 Thessalonians. The context is the whole of chapter 3 verses 6 through 15. Basically the Apostle Paul is writing to the church in Thessalonica with advice on how to make the communal lifestyle there work. Because if everyone is living together and working together, you're bound to have some issues with some people taking advantage of that. So the Apostle is saying, first of all, set a good example, and secondly, go ahead and exercise some discipline in the community. Verse 15 hints at how you might want to interpret these verses as compared to the references you cited: "Do not regard them as enemies, but warn them as believers." You see, a Christian has rather different conduct when he is dealing with a believer or a non-believer. If someone is your brother in Christ, it's ok to be a little hard on him. Same way you have the right to be a little harder on your own family members than I would. It's all supposed to be done in love, of course. Hope that helps.
      - groby_b 8y ago
        That does help, thank you. (Not that I'm entirely agreeing with it, but it's helpful in understanding where it comes from :)

groby_b 8y ago

1 Thessalionians 3:10 is Night and day we pray most earnestly that we may see you again and supply what is lacking in your faith This might not be the one you're looking for? And if you want to use the bible as a justification for not feeding those who don't work... Matthew 6:36? Matthew 25:35? Isaiah 58:10? Or let's go with the canoncial James 2:14-18, What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

presidentender 8y ago
You know as well as I do he's referring to a real verse. The fact that he cited it as 1 Thessalonians instead of 2 Thessalonians doesn't change the fact that there's a line in the New Testament that says "If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat." There is context for it, and I don't consider it an indictment of Christianity, but pretending it's not in there doesn't help your credibility.
- groby_b 8y ago
  I actually did not know which verse he was referring to, no. So, thank you for pointing me there. If you know of an interpretation of this including the context you refer to, I'd appreciate a pointer very much.
  - triangleman 8y ago
    Yeah I meant 2 Thessalonians. The context is the whole of chapter 3 verses 6 through 15. Basically the Apostle Paul is writing to the church in Thessalonica with advice on how to make the communal lifestyle there work. Because if everyone is living together and working together, you're bound to have some issues with some people taking advantage of that. So the Apostle is saying, first of all, set a good example, and secondly, go ahead and exercise some discipline in the community. Verse 15 hints at how you might want to interpret these verses as compared to the references you cited: "Do not regard them as enemies, but warn them as believers." You see, a Christian has rather different conduct when he is dealing with a believer or a non-believer. If someone is your brother in Christ, it's ok to be a little hard on him. Same way you have the right to be a little harder on your own family members than I would. It's all supposed to be done in love, of course. Hope that helps.
    - groby_b 8y ago
      That does help, thank you. (Not that I'm entirely agreeing with it, but it's helpful in understanding where it comes from :)