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Stoics believe that this is more impressive than the lifestyles of rich people. José Mujica was once the president of Uruguay gave 90% of his presidential salar

by e19293001 8y ago

Stoics believe that this is more impressive than the lifestyles of rich people. José Mujica was once the president of Uruguay gave 90% of his presidential salary to the charity and driving a very old car. Stuffs like this is more impressive because not everyone can do that. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mujica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mujica

MoBattah 8y ago
"He concluded his talk by adding: 'I see that there are many young people here; as an old man, a little advice... Life can set us a lot of snares, a lot of bumps, we can fail a thousand times, in life, in love, in the social struggle, but if we search for it we'll have the strength to get up again and start over. The most beautiful thing about the day is that it dawns. There is always a dawn after the night has passed. Don't forget it, kids. The only losers are the ones who stop fighting.'"
- sireat 8y ago
  Only problem is that you do not see the new dawn. You need to sell yourself a broken bit of goods(that you will see that dawn) every real morning. We are quite good at local min-max because there is no global one.
  - moretai 8y ago
    There might be a global min-max.
  - kamaal 8y ago
    Its very important to look at life as phases. I think almost every one will go through at least one cycle of fail, struggle, rise, plateau. Sometimes there could be only one of such cycle all life, sometime they could be several. Despite your best efforts you will fail, falter and struggle. And sometimes, without doing anything at all you will win a lot. The best case scenario for people would be to have the failure stages early in life and success later so that one can have the maturity to handle things, save up and retire with new acquired wisdom from failure. The worst would be to have early success then failure all life. Regardless you just have to keep trying.
    - Arete31415 8y ago
      I like what you have to say about having the failure stage young, with one caveat: too many heartbreaks and setbacks can kill the spirit. It's good to be tempered, rather than shattered.
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godelmachine 8y ago
Obama was known to donate 70% of his salary towards charity.
- KillerRabbitt 8y ago
  Trump also donated/is donating his salary.
  - sleepychu 8y ago
    Serious question, do you have a citation for that? He's pulled so much shit with money I'd not be surprised to discover it's the re-elect Trump campaign charity.
    - pg_bot 8y ago
      Here is an article that details the donations.[0] So far it has been 100K checks given to a different federal agency quarterly. He has donated to the National Parks Service, Department of Education, Health and Human Services, and the Department of Transportation. [0] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/02/13/president-trump-donates-fourth-quarter-salary-infrastructure-projects/334379002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018...
      - nkristoffersen 8y ago
        How much has the trump administration reduced the budget for these agencies?
        dantheman 8y ago
        Reducing the budget and donating are two very different things and not even cross purpose. You may believe that we have to reign in spending -- we do spend more than we take in. It may make sense to cut programs you like to fund ones that are important, and then donate money to the one you just cut -- because you like it. Now... I don't believe this is what's happening.
GFischer 8y ago
I live in Uruguay. Not trying to take away from the fact that he does truly live a very ascetic lifestyle and he definitely didn't go into politics for economical gains, what most people don't know is that Mujica's wife is a rich heiress (turned rebel terrorist, an interesting story as well), and Mujica himself owns some prime real estate (he was offered millions for it and declined). Also, his "old car" is an expensive collector's item and he owns hundreds of thousands of dollars in farm equipment. So it's like if one of the Kennedys decided to eschew fancy living and live as an ascetic/hermit on a shack in Martha's Vineyard, is he poor? Also, Mujica might not be interested in wealth but he's VERY power-hungry... And he left a huge mess after his presidency, and didn't address the issues I was hoping he would address (for instance, homeless people quadrupled). Misguided people with lofty goals can sometimes do more harm than good :(

MoBattah 8y ago

"He concluded his talk by adding: 'I see that there are many young people here; as an old man, a little advice... Life can set us a lot of snares, a lot of bumps, we can fail a thousand times, in life, in love, in the social struggle, but if we search for it we'll have the strength to get up again and start over. The most beautiful thing about the day is that it dawns. There is always a dawn after the night has passed. Don't forget it, kids. The only losers are the ones who stop fighting.'"

sireat 8y ago
Only problem is that you do not see the new dawn. You need to sell yourself a broken bit of goods(that you will see that dawn) every real morning. We are quite good at local min-max because there is no global one.
- moretai 8y ago
  There might be a global min-max.
- kamaal 8y ago
  Its very important to look at life as phases. I think almost every one will go through at least one cycle of fail, struggle, rise, plateau. Sometimes there could be only one of such cycle all life, sometime they could be several. Despite your best efforts you will fail, falter and struggle. And sometimes, without doing anything at all you will win a lot. The best case scenario for people would be to have the failure stages early in life and success later so that one can have the maturity to handle things, save up and retire with new acquired wisdom from failure. The worst would be to have early success then failure all life. Regardless you just have to keep trying.
  - Arete31415 8y ago
    I like what you have to say about having the failure stage young, with one caveat: too many heartbreaks and setbacks can kill the spirit. It's good to be tempered, rather than shattered.

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godelmachine 8y ago

Obama was known to donate 70% of his salary towards charity.

KillerRabbitt 8y ago
Trump also donated/is donating his salary.
- sleepychu 8y ago
  Serious question, do you have a citation for that? He's pulled so much shit with money I'd not be surprised to discover it's the re-elect Trump campaign charity.
  - pg_bot 8y ago
    Here is an article that details the donations.[0] So far it has been 100K checks given to a different federal agency quarterly. He has donated to the National Parks Service, Department of Education, Health and Human Services, and the Department of Transportation. [0] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/02/13/president-trump-donates-fourth-quarter-salary-infrastructure-projects/334379002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018...
    - nkristoffersen 8y ago
      How much has the trump administration reduced the budget for these agencies?
      - dantheman 8y ago
        Reducing the budget and donating are two very different things and not even cross purpose. You may believe that we have to reign in spending -- we do spend more than we take in. It may make sense to cut programs you like to fund ones that are important, and then donate money to the one you just cut -- because you like it. Now... I don't believe this is what's happening.

GFischer 8y ago

I live in Uruguay. Not trying to take away from the fact that he does truly live a very ascetic lifestyle and he definitely didn't go into politics for economical gains, what most people don't know is that Mujica's wife is a rich heiress (turned rebel terrorist, an interesting story as well), and Mujica himself owns some prime real estate (he was offered millions for it and declined). Also, his "old car" is an expensive collector's item and he owns hundreds of thousands of dollars in farm equipment. So it's like if one of the Kennedys decided to eschew fancy living and live as an ascetic/hermit on a shack in Martha's Vineyard, is he poor? Also, Mujica might not be interested in wealth but he's VERY power-hungry... And he left a huge mess after his presidency, and didn't address the issues I was hoping he would address (for instance, homeless people quadrupled). Misguided people with lofty goals can sometimes do more harm than good :(