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Thank you for the dialog. So I think it's fair to say we have not properly addressed the local fallout of globalism in the US (by doing any of the things you su

by dcow 9y ago

Thank you for the dialog. So I think it's fair to say we have not properly addressed the local fallout of globalism in the US (by doing any of the things you suggest) which is likely in part why we're seeing a call for protectionist stances on international trade, and very possibly the reason Trump is sitting in office. Similar to you, I'd be curious what people are doing to underwrite human rights via trade deals so we globally don't regress to the mean, but that's a topic for another time. If underwriting human rights became expensive or a requirement in certain states in theory it impacts the free market...

forapurpose 9y ago
On a slight tangent: Human rights create wealth too, a very happy fact of life. Free, politically secure people, who feel they control their destiny are, not too surprisingly, the most productive. All the most productive, wealthiest nations are free. One thing you say that I don't quite agree with: > very possibly the reason Trump is sitting in office Think of all the ways the theory doesn't apply: Most voters making less than $50K chose Clinton[0]; minority voters, who also lost jobs and who have higher unemployment than white voters, overwhelming chose Clinton; Trump's and the GOP's policies overwhelmingly favor the wealthy and big business, including cutting health care and other government services to the working class, and shifting relatively more of the tax burden onto them. To the extent working class white voters supported Trump, they did so against economic self-interest. But that's long been true of many such voters; remember the book 'What's the matter with Kansas?' (or whatever it was called - a f*ng obnoxious, ignorant, arrogant title that reveals the problem with Dems: 'customers aren't buying our product, what's the matter with them?'). The question is, why? [0] Based on a HN comment that cited some stats; I didn't check them myself, so take with salt. But I remember reading similar research after the election.

by dcow 9y ago

forapurpose 9y ago

On a slight tangent: Human rights create wealth too, a very happy fact of life. Free, politically secure people, who feel they control their destiny are, not too surprisingly, the most productive. All the most productive, wealthiest nations are free. One thing you say that I don't quite agree with: > very possibly the reason Trump is sitting in office Think of all the ways the theory doesn't apply: Most voters making less than $50K chose Clinton[0]; minority voters, who also lost jobs and who have higher unemployment than white voters, overwhelming chose Clinton; Trump's and the GOP's policies overwhelmingly favor the wealthy and big business, including cutting health care and other government services to the working class, and shifting relatively more of the tax burden onto them. To the extent working class white voters supported Trump, they did so against economic self-interest. But that's long been true of many such voters; remember the book 'What's the matter with Kansas?' (or whatever it was called - a f*ng obnoxious, ignorant, arrogant title that reveals the problem with Dems: 'customers aren't buying our product, what's the matter with them?'). The question is, why? [0] Based on a HN comment that cited some stats; I didn't check them myself, so take with salt. But I remember reading similar research after the election.